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CMP Sales

74man74man Member Posts: 162 ✭✭✭
edited October 2007 in Ask the Experts
Hi, I was wondering if anyone has purchased any military guns through CMP? I am confused by their description. Are Inland carbines any good or should a "stay away sign" be posted? Here is what they have to say.

"We do not expect to find any `collector' or `correct' grades." WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

We do not expect to have a "field" grade for these carbines. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? I thought grading was Collector, Service and Field, am I wrong?
Carbines have been rebuilt and refinished at least once and will exhibit in most cases varying degrees of wear on many of the parts and generally no noticeable or significant pitting on metal. All the carbines have late features - such as adjustable sights (heavily staked) with bayonet lug bands and rotary safeties. Metal parts are mixed USGI. There are no carbines with early features. Muzzle will gauge 3 or less on muzzle gauge. (WOULD THIS BE SAFE TO USE AS A SHOOTER?) Stocks will be replacement Italian marked M2 type birch or beech pot belly or USGI walnut but having seen heavy use with possible rebuild marks (no original stock cartouches remain). Most stocks have the "FAT" stamp / cartouche (Fabbrica Armi Terni ).

I am interested if these are any good and they are priced right. What would you think a selling price should be for this description

Not greatly familiar with military rifles, good deal or not? Just want a good shooter. Any information will be appreciated. Thanks Bob
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gee Bob, you sure have a lot of questions!

    But, if you haven't been following CMP's offerings, I guess their descriptions may be confusing. If you look under Sales/Rifles/Garands, you will find descriptions of all their condition terms.

    The bore at the muzzle is nominally .300" in diameter; this would measure "0" (the thousandths digit) on a gauge. As the bore wears, it would increase to .301" ("1"), .302" ("2"), etc. New barrels were usually in the 1 to 2 range; much beyond 3, & accuracy will fall off. But, these are only 100 yd guns, so that's not a big consideration; even with a 4 or 5, it will still be safe.

    All of these carbines will be "shooters", as opposed to "collectibles". And, expect them to be greasier than a Yugo SKS. As no prices have been set, no one can say yet if they will be a good deal. Personally, I will buy one if they are no more than $500, maybe $600 if I feel lucky.

    All makes are equal quality. Inland made the most, so they are common. Expect high prices for some of the other makes. But, since all will be sufficiently mutilated to ever be "collectible", I can't see paying a premium for any of them.

    Neal
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  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm still waiting for my $20 carbine from the DCM.

    Bad news is that they have just sent another E-mail saying the date has been pushed back to April 1st.
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  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,140 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The CMP rifles are thoroughly inspected and safe to shoot unless specifically stated. They're not going to be collectors due to mixed parts but will be serviceable. As far as the Inland maker I'd guess all were made to gov't specs so any is good enough for whatever an M1 carbine is good for. Another aspect would be whether some are select fire.
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I talked to Gary Anderson a couple of weeks ago he said none of the carbines were select fire. Beach
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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
    edited November -1
    My brother just got an M1 Garand from them. It looks like a solid gun. And the price was right.

    I plan on getting one very soon.
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry * r done, but you waited too long. CMP is out of M1 rifles, except for a few that are worn out. And, they won't be getting any more, either. This is the end of the line. Sorry. All that you can do is check the secondary market.

    Neal
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  • bgjohnbgjohn Member Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    NO way are they worth 5-6 hundred $$$$$$$$. They can stick them where the sun never shines.
    JM[V]
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  • Leebo95Leebo95 Member Posts: 9 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    A friend just picked up a select grade and it looks like it has hardly been touched. I am placing an order with in the next few weeks.
    For 600 it maybe a gamble but it looks pretty good from that one and a few other I have seen.
    Lee
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  • br549br549 Member Posts: 1,024 ✭
    edited November -1
    the cmp rifles will be safe to shoot,but will probally have mixed manufactors parts, none will look new but a few will be in lots better condition than others.
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  • Emmett DunhamEmmett Dunham Member Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It take a certian type of person to buy a CMP rifles sight unseen mail order, the discription of the rifles are most of the time over stated on the negitive side of condition to lower peoples expectation, most of the time the rife excedes the buyes expectations.

    If you want to get a better idea about the rifles being sold by CMP, go to their forum and watch the posts and look at the pictures posted of the rifles is the best way to determine if you want to purchase.



    Emmett
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