Adjustable shotgun stocks

geeguy

Looking for inexpensive methods to build an adjustable shotgun to loan to new trap and skeet shooters. I have many O/U's but the weight and LOP does not fit many smaller teens. I believe I need to build up a functional Semi, maybe 26" barrel, screw in chokes, and some type adjustable stock. Looked at ATI Akita stocks (sounds like what I am looking for) but they only make them for pump guns. I would like to use a functioning Mossberg 5500/930, or maybe 1100. I can light load a 12 ga. so there's little kick.

Any ideas on the best way to do this with an inexpensive method? (I know, buy a new CZ712 ALS, but I really don't want to spend that much)

asphalt cowboy

Would something like this suffice?
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/butt-plate-parts/butt-plates/adjustable-butt-plate-prod12726.aspx

Or this?
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/butt-plate-parts/butt-plates/standard-adjustable-butt-plate-prod6726.aspx

geeguy

Cowboy: Thanks for the input. They both require professional stock work which is more then the gun is worth (I don't yet even have the gun). I can get a new CZ712ALS for a little over $500, so I was hoping to pick up a used 5500 for under $225 and add an ALS stock (drop in)for about $100, and save about $125.

May go the CZ route, but I'm pretty frugal since this is just a loan gun for many different size shooters. Just trying to get more youth involved. Checking for creative ideas before I spend my money.

Thanks

charliemeyer007

They have M16 style adjustable stocks for at least the Rem 870. Tons regular stocks around for them cheap too, 4 or 5 ought give a good training selection. I would think a 7/8 super light would work all but smallest stature persons to learn on.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/589603/mesa-tactical-leo-telescoping-hydraulic-recoil-stock-kit-remington-870-12-gauge

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/173686/hogue-rubber-overmolded-stock-remington-870-synthetic-black

The last 870 Express I paid $100 for and it is in great shape.

Check the auction side for used wood or even flea-bay. I have used wood for $10 on the gunshow tables.

Thanks for helping out new shooters. Wish more people would make the effort.

beantownshootah

Problem with an AR-15 like stock is its not very "sporting". . .which is to say clay and wing shooters usually don't use them (not that using one is unsportsmanlike!).

I like Charlies idea.

If you get something like an 870 or Mossy 500, there are a zillion secondhand stocks out there. Get a few beat/ugly ones, cut them down to a few different lengths of pull, (or get youth/precut ones) and you're good to go. It probably doesn't get any cheaper/easier than that.

Remember, while you can't shoot a stock that's too long, you can always make "too short" a bit longer with a slip on recoil pad. In fact, you might just look at getting a selection of recoil pads in different lengths, as a cheap/easy way to adjust length of pull a bit.

Mark G

quote:Originally posted by asphalt cowboy
Would something like this suffice?
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/butt-plate-parts/butt-plates/adjustable-butt-plate-prod12726.aspx

Or this?
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/butt-plate-parts/butt-plates/standard-adjustable-butt-plate-prod6726.aspx



I had the Graco on my O/U trap gun with a Morgan recoil pad. It was very flexible as far as adjustments were concerned.

http://morganrecoilpad.com/

geeguy

Thanks for the input from everyone. These are not "new" shooters, just young and new to trap, skeet, and 5 stand. The pump units really are not good training for double shots required in skeet and 5 stand (yes, I have used them for fun in the past, but not the best for new skeet shooters). The Graco and others are very good, but expensive. Looks like my best option is to buy a CZ712ALS, as this is the least expensive way to go.

Again, thank you all for the input.

gruntled

I've had an adjustable buttplate like those on my Remington 1100
skeet gun for over forty years. Has about the same effect as adjustable sights on a rifle. I had to have slightly different settings for American & International skeet.

bambihunter

quote:Originally posted by beantownshootah

Remember, while you can't shoot a stock that's too long, you can always make "too short" a bit longer with a slip on recoil pad. In fact, you might just look at getting a selection of recoil pads in different lengths, as a cheap/easy way to adjust length of pull a bit.


I second this ideology. Getting youth model with the shorter barrels in the 20-24" barrel length and shortened LOP then extending it as needed. The shorter barrel will keep the gun from being too front heavy which has been an issue for almost all younger people I have tried to bring into shooting sports.

My thoughts about the pumps; I have found (in my admittedly limited experience) that the younger generation I have introduced to a manual gun first, then later semi-auto seemed to pick up the operation of the action faster than going those who learned on a semi-auto, and then later trying to learn a manual action (bolt, lever, pump, break-open, etc). I see it kind of as learning a manual shift car first vs automatic first then learning a manual later, or worse off, never learning them at all.