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Model 53 Winchester

dodge69dodge69 Member Posts: 949 ✭✭
edited February 2017 in Ask the Experts
I have a model 53 25-20 that has that has a piece of the butt stock broken off in the right hand corner of the butt stock were the upper tang and receiver meet . If I could find a shot gun butt stock for a 94 or 92 would it fit and would it be the same shape. I know they all require some fitting but repairs in this area are usually noticeable.

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  • dodge69dodge69 Member Posts: 949 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I guess you can kill this post. I have found the 92 shot gun but stock is much bigger. The post WW11 64 butt stock and the 53 are the same except the 53 has a fluted comb. The 53 and the 55 are the same stock.
  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dodge69
    I guess you can kill this post. I have found the 92 shot gun but stock is much bigger. The post WW11 64 butt stock and the 53 are the same except the 53 has a fluted comb. The 53 and the 55 are the same stock.


    The information you just posted is frankly "out-to-lunch".

    Specifically, the Model 92 and the Model 53 are the exact receiver frame, therefore the stocks are the same size and interchangeable. The difference between them, is the Model 92 butt stock does not have a fluted comb.

    In regards to the Model 64 (pre WW II or post WW II), they were all made with a fluted comb, so that is not the issue. The issue is in the butt plate type used, and how it is inletted into the stock. The Model 64 (and the Model 65) both use a checkered steel butt plate with the widows peak at the top, and both will fit on a Model 53 receiver, but would not be correct The Model 53 used a serrated steel plate with no widows peak.

    Yes, the Model 53 and the Model 55 butt stocks are the same (and interchangeable to a point).

    WACA Historian & Life Member

  • oldWinchesterfanoldWinchesterfan Member Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Many used Winchesters lose a sliver along one or both upper tangs. Why not just have a good gunsmith inlay a piece and match it. Keep the original stock on the gun. I've had pieces inlaid like that twice and have had friends unable to find the repair.
  • Okie743Okie743 Member Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by oldWinchesterfan
    Many used Winchesters lose a sliver along one or both upper tangs. Why not just have a good gunsmith inlay a piece and match it. Keep the original stock on the gun. I've had pieces inlaid like that twice and have had friends unable to fine the repair.


    I've done the same.

    Just takes little bit of patience and time. Most old Winchesters (and others) have dark walnut wood and can be matched so as the repair is not even noticeable and the repair even stronger than the previous wood and still have the original wood on her.
  • dodge69dodge69 Member Posts: 949 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The information I posted on what stock would fit the 53 was what I received from one of the major stock companies. I was told the 92 stock would fit the receiver but is was a larger stock and of course was not fluted. When I say larger, I mean taller and thicker. I would guess, since I was talking to a stock company they were talking about the stocks they sell which of course would not include a butt plate.
    I do not have a smith that will do the repair which I would prefer as the stock I have is good with the exception of the piece missing and this is a really low serial number below 250. I have plenty access to Walnut wood on my property. I did find a smith on line but he wanted $ 300 plus shipping and said the crack would be seen.
  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My advice to you is this... repair the existing stock, and leave the gun as close to original as possible.

    Additionally, never take for granted what a stock making company has to say about old Winchester stocks... especially if you were talking to Precision Gun Works [xx(]

    WACA Historian & Life Member

  • oldWinchesterfanoldWinchesterfan Member Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Echoing the above, especially with that low serial number gun, I'd do all I could to keep it as original as possible.

    My gun smith is quite elderly and unfortilunately not accepting new customers. The man is an absolute artist, both with metal and wood. He can duplicate any screw. I've seen derringers on which he can't find all the tiny pieces he has inlaid to repair the wood. He considers a Winchester 1886 a modern gun. They are out there, good luck finding yours. Repairing that original stock is the way to go.
  • dodge69dodge69 Member Posts: 949 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The reason I went to a stock company was I had some 250 readers of this post but nobody responding. Of course the readers would have no idea that I do not have a really good smith or anybody I know of that can make the repair. The lack of known talent left me with one option and that was to replace the stock. I will do my best to salvage the stock on the gun. Perhaps I can find somebody in the St. Louis or Kansas City area. I live in central Missouri so if anybody knows of a person that could help me out please let me know.
  • HangfireHangfire Member Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don't limit your search to only gunsmiths.. There are many woodworkers that can handle that repair-

    Local Antique shop that does repair/restorations- an antique dealer mall usually has a dealer that does repairs..

    Local cabinet maker that actually builds cabinets, and does wood millwork..

    Local music shop- they'll have someone that does their piano/guitar repair..

    Local moving company will have someone that does their damage repair..

    Your insurance agent should have a lead for claim repairs..

    An auto restoration shop will have someone who does quality wood work for car interiors..

    A nice furniture store will have a contact to do their touch-up/repairs..

    Get a few referrals, and meet with the person.. After taking to him you can decide if he comes off as a true craftsman, or just a wood monkey..

    As others said, get the stock repaired- a new stock is, well, a new stock..
  • TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,292 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    dodge, these guys do fantastic work, but because they do, they have a large back log.
    http://www.stockfixrs.com/index.htm
  • dodge69dodge69 Member Posts: 949 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    thank you folks, you have been very helpful.
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