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ATF Inspection

jdchasejdchase Member Posts: 44 ✭✭
edited September 2001 in Ask the Experts
Heard that the inspector wants to come out. I have a C&R license and have never been inspected, in fact I didn't think I would be. What should I expect and what do I need to do to prepare?
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  • 32wsl32wsl Member Posts: 68 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd like to know also. As a C&R I know I'm subject to a 'look see' of my records, particularly concerning pistols, but is there anything else?
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  • jdchasejdchase Member Posts: 44 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Update: So it turns out that a guy I sold a gun to on AA a while back who was unhappy with the sale, reported me as using my C&R to sell guns for profit. Apparently they only inspect C&Rs if there is a problem of some kind. The inspector was a nice lady who asked several questions regarding how many guns I sell (dispose of). I asked if I was in trouble... she said she just investigates, she doesn't make any determinations. Wonderful.
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  • 32wsl32wsl Member Posts: 68 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    That's news. 'For profit' is an IRS matter if there's a question of Capital Gains/Losses, or a State matter concerning a business licence. If a significant portion of your income derived from C&R trades, then the ATF would be very concerned: An FFL would be necessary, and you may be in trouble. A C&R can acquire all he wants, but take care in selling parts of your collection, record and tax wise.
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  • byron2112byron2112 Member Posts: 31 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Wow,that sucks.Please keep us informed of what happens.I've been thinking of getting one of these ,but if its just an excuse for more government intrusion/harassment I think I'll pass.So let me get this straight,with a C&R you can buy but cannot trade up or selloff for other peices(normal collector activity)without some red flag going up in a Washington bunker?You cannot make any profit even though your paying for a licence?
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,624 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Guys,Forgive my ignorance - I'm pretty nre here. What is a C&R? Why would I need this to buy firearms?Thanks,Jeff
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    CBXJEFFF- A C&R is a curio and relic license. It is not required to purchase a firearm.
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  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000 ✭
    edited November -1
    An old friend of mine was hit by the ATF for selling too many guns on a C&R. The agent told him that it was more related to the number sold vs. the number purchased, but if 5 or more guns were sold a year, it would probably constitute a business. That's a crock! Who could live on the profits of 5 gun sales a year? I guess it depends on what you sell and to whom you sell it!
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  • HerschelHerschel Member Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Byron2112, As I understand it the C & R gives a person a legal means of buying C & R guns in your state of residence or outside it without going through a ffl holder. For selling, the C & R holder has exactly the same rights as an unlicensed person. As I see it, the only way red flags would go up in Washington is if you buy two or more handguns in a 5 day period from the same ffl. That triggers a form having to be sent in to BATF.
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