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Primers

bikrprchrbikrprchr Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
edited September 2001 in Ask the Experts
What is the big deal with primers? You drop the hammer and they go BANG. Why are Eley better than others? Any difference in function with rim or center fire?

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  • bikrprchrbikrprchr Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have been using CCI 200 Large Rifle primers, WantTo switch to Winchester LargeRifle 8 1/2 any difference in size and preformance.
  • bikrprchrbikrprchr Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can somebody share their experience please? I am wanting to work up a load in 300 Win Mag to shoot in a Sendero, and am wondering if the bench rest primers are enough better to warrant the extra cost. In the past, I always grabbed CCI or whatever I had around and worked up a load. Now this wrinkle has come up and I wonder if the br primers really are better or is it just sales hype. Please share your experience. PS this is primarily for target shooting purposes.Thanks for any insight you might offer.
    1 Cross + 3 Nails= 4given
  • bikrprchrbikrprchr Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I mistakenly bought small rifle magnum primers instead of small pistol primers. I loaded 100 38 caliber and went out and shot them. I did not feel or see any difference between the small rifle magnum and the other bulletts loaded with regular small pistol primers.

    Am I going to get in trouble using these primers?
  • bikrprchrbikrprchr Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just got a Lee Auto Prime. In the instructions, it says to not use any Federal primers. Do any of you use the Lee Auto Prime? What primers do you use? Has anyone had any trouble with Federal primers?
  • bikrprchrbikrprchr Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a good one for you.
    I have always been taught as a rule of thumb, if a primer is chrome colored
    the round is reloaded.
    If the primer is brass colored the round is a factory round.

    Now I have run into a box of Winchester Super - X in 303 Savage.
    The primers are chrome colored not brass colored.
    It seems to be in all in tense and purpose a factory box. Now I have seen other
    assumed factory loads of other calibers listed on the auction side with chrome colored primers.
    So would this possibly be factory loaded ammo?
  • bikrprchrbikrprchr Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What is the difference between regular primers and magnum primers and can you enterchange them safely would like any kind of help on this I can get. Thanks Bob
  • bikrprchrbikrprchr Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have alot of (about 50,000) primers, from small pistol to large rifle) some are older but I have never had a single problem and alot are newer. Is it hard to ship these if I put them on here and sell them? Thanks
  • bikrprchrbikrprchr Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have some federal 215 magnum primers, can I use these safely in my 270 and 243 Thanks Kumate jr
  • bikrprchrbikrprchr Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can you tell me if Winchester ever used silver primers in their .356 ammo? I thought they always used brass primers.
  • cpermdcpermd Member Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You don't need BRsJust LR magnums
  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I kinda wonder that too... Anyone do any field testing to see if the BR primers make any group or velocity differences over regular primers?
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've never made any studies comparing BR to std primers. When I started loading many years ago, it was to have really accurate loads for my varmint rifle & I started off using the CCI BR primers. Have no reason to complain about accuracy . . . only factor that causes a miss is behind the rifle. IMHO, all the primers offered these days are more consistent than the ppl pulling the triggers, but some seem to work slightly better with certain powders / cartridges. That said, I doubt the BR would give you the consistent ignition you need in a voluminous case like the .300 WM. I concur w/ cpermd, the CCI LR Mag is likely to be your best choice. If it were I, I'd try these and if I had positive results, I'd invest in a five year supply of a single lot, store them in an airtight canister in a cool place & not worry about that particular variable again until I ran out. Have fun!!
  • cpermdcpermd Member Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Look in the Sierra and Speer datacpermd
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I found Rem BR primers gave closer pressure and velocity readings in a small case capacity, high loading density, experimentalcartridge using ball powder. Accuracy wasn'tbeing tested. Pressures were measured by the crusher method.Using the most precise primer will allow you to move on to other variables in controllingfactors affecting accuracy.
  • modocmodoc Member Posts: 474 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Primers are just like anything else in the target game.BORING.I believe it is just another way to cast doubt in the minds of the poor guys who are involved in that "? SPORT ?".Too bad they can't keep that once in a lifetime great group and win something with it.I guess it serves a purpose but most of the died in the wool target shooters when they get away from their carefully measured distances they couldn't hit a bull in the * with a bass fiddle.All you field shooters, be careful about target shooting or you will lose your edge in the field.Prerare your loads but get away from the paper targets and shoot at rocks at differing distances to practice.
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "shoot at rocks" ?? Don't know that this is the best advice. Before it was upgraded several years ago, the range we used had rocks mixed into the backstop material & every so often a projectile would ricochet. And most training / safety programs suggest that this is not good practice. Perhaps some cans scattered at random distances down range (which you will pick up, right?).
  • bikrprchrbikrprchr Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The main reason I now shoot paper instead of in the field, is that my family does not eat game. I don't believe in killing something that will not get eaten before it goes to waste, so I no longer hunt. Is it less thrilling than hunting to shoot targets, not to me. It is a challenge to shoot, not off a bench, but a bi or tripod, out to long distances and group well. Does this mean I am against hunting, no it does not. I still get some elk and venison from my cousin, so I enjoy eating it, though my family does not. The challenge of taking an off the shelf rifle, and working with it to hit at a distance is challenging to me. Also you will note from my first post on this thread, I am using a 300 Win Mag, which is not exactly your standard Bench rest caliber.
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Years ago, overseas, a friend and I were pouring concentrated fire from 30 cal carbines at a rock target and when we went over to examine it there was a fire in the grass.Firing tracers at hard targets will give one a fine appreciation of how much and how many bullets rebound and ricochet in every direction. It can be a dangerous business.
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