Is a "Double Trouble" trigger legal?

leeblackman

Those of us who have been playing paintball for a while know what I'm refering too.A "double-trouble" trigger is when you pull the trigger a shot is fired, then when you let go of the trigger, a shot is fired.I was wondering if that was legal to have on a gun. I found that the Mini-14 trigger group and other similar ones would be very easy to modify to such.As far as I know it comply's with the "only one shot fires when the trigger is pulled" thing, don't remeber reading anything about shot can't be fired when the trigger's let go too.

thunderbolt

Don't even think about it. Aside from being illegal, it is dangerous and more than likely would lead to someone being shotunintentionally.

Kadaver

naughty boy.....the one shot per trigger pull means...for each pull and release of the trigger only one shot is fired....anything else is considered burst shots or auto and therefore you may vacation in stonely lonely if you decide to modify it.

REBJr

saw an auction to make this conversion to mini-14, bought it and used it on my 30. involved a small piece of metal bent and installed between the sears. also came with a copy of letter from ATF to seller stating that " firing of one round per trigger motion" was legal and went on to explain that a pull and subsiquent(sp?) release was considered 2 seperate motions and was thereby legal. never throw anything away, can probably find the copy if you want. BTW, didn't work well on 30 with recoil and all, fun for indescriminate blasting though, removed it. hope this helps-Ralph

REBJr

lee found the copy" As defined in section 5845 (b) of the NFA, the term "machinegun" includes any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot automatically more than one shot by a single function of the trigger.""Provided that your trigger group modification allows only one shot to be fired when the trigger is pulled, and only one shot to be fired when the trigger is released, it would not be a machinegun as defined"hope it helps - Ralph

Dragunov7.62x54R

Lee, the best thing to do would be to call your local ATF office and ask them what they thought. If they tell you that they wouldn't attempt to prosecute you then don't worry about it. I haven't heard or can't find any judicial precedent for such thing, so its definently a Grey Area. I'm sure you could get away with it, on technicality from what the other members are saying, it is two seperate functions of the trigger.

JudgeColt

I would not recommend calling your local ATF office. First, whatever you were told would not be binding. It would only be the opinion of the agent with whom you spoke. If the agent were wrong, that would not protect you from prosecution.Second, you will be identified (caller ID, etc.) as someone interested in machine guns and I would not want that recognition. I believe this device is fully legal, the same as the devices that use recoil to set up a simulated full auto fire, or cause the trigger to be activated more than once with a pull on the device. I belive this device would be quite dangerous, but legal. No one should rely on my opinion, or that of anyone else in such matters. Each should investigate any activity to achieve a level of personal comfort before acting.

v35

Serious safety and legal considerations aside, the rate of fire would be so slow that the barrel would be in full recoil and off the target by the time the second shot goes off.A 22 with muzzle brake might be more interesting.