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Winchester 1886

neacpaneacpa Member Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭
edited August 2017 in Ask the Experts
Hello again just wondering wht the experts think of the grade of this?
hope pic's go thru thanks in advance Kevin
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sorry dont know how to resze them maybe or im sure someone will tell me

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    neacpaneacpa Member Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am in need of instruction as to the disassembly of 1886 take-down. I would appreciate any help.
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    neacpaneacpa Member Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've been asked to sell a Winchester 1886 45-90 for a family member. How does one go about getting an accurate appraisal on one of these oldtimers? From the serial number, I've determined that it was made in 1897, and it appears to be in excellent working order considering it's 106 years old. However, I have no idea as to an accurate percent rating, etc. I've heard reference to the Cody Museum, but have no idea what that entails. Any direction I could get on getting this thing appraised would really be appreciated.
    Also, I can find very little information on the viability of the 45-90 cartridge. With the resurgence in popularity of the 45-70 in the last few years, can anyone comment on the merits of this longer .45? Does it have a value as a modern hunting loading, or is it just a thing of the past, for cowboy shoots, etc? Thanks.

    Kick it. Don't kiss it.
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    neacpaneacpa Member Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    did they make the model 1886 with a half magazine
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    neacpaneacpa Member Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester 1886 in 40-65.
    If I read the Serial number correctly it is either #6 or #9.
    The lever pin is missing,and some of the screws have been replaced with mismatched ones.
    The blueing is very good.Stock has some cracks.
    Can anyone tell me as to where to get a lever pin and some original screws?
    The very low S/N intrigues me.

    Mike Hood
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    neacpaneacpa Member Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi folks. You've all been quite helpful in the past when I come across an old gun such as my Colt Officer's Match Model .38 and my Forehand Arms 1886 .38 revolver.

    This time the gun in question is a Winchester 1886 .33 caliber (?). I haven't seen it in person yet but have photos. Serial is 1332xx. 24" Barrel lever action. The finish on appears pretty worn on the metal surfaces but otherwise it appears in good shape. I am told it is mechanicly sound and safe to use. It has a small scope mounted on it.

    Any info or thoughts would sure be appreciated!
    Thanks!
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    neacpaneacpa Member Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello,

    My husband inherited a Winchester Model 1886 38-56 rifle from his grandfather. The serial # is 83290. Other markings on the barrel are "PAT Oct 14, 1884" and below that "Jan 20, 1885". The gun is not in great condition. It hasn't been fired in more than 10 years and at one time, an owner decided to create is own "art" on the stocks... It's almost as if it belonged to a young boy. Anyway, we are interested in selling it, but don't know where to begin as far as getting an accurate value for it if any. Any information you can give us would be much appreciated. Here are photos http://s77.photobucket.com/albums/j79/edh7507/guns/
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    neacpaneacpa Member Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What is the value of this Winchester 1886 in .45-70 with serial number 123XX?

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    neacpaneacpa Member Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I picked up a Win 1886 yesterday with SN 190xx so I think it was made in 1889. I bought the gun believing the barrel was NOT original to gun. Am I correct in assuming that even the earlier 1886's had the caliber stamped on the barrel? Octagon barrel is a touch over 24" from end of barrel to front receiver where barrel goes in. Full length magazine. Other than my belief the barrel is not original the gun appears (by my non-expert eyes) original but have not taken it apart to check inside.

    If I am not correct and the earlier guns did not have the caliber stamped on barrel, could the length I mentioned be correct? Even with a non-original barrel, I thought it was pretty cool and didn't see how I could get hurt too bad for $600.00.

    I assume the only way to find out the caliber would be to get a letter from Cody or can a gunsmith figure it out by measurements?

    Thanks, Stan
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    neacpaneacpa Member Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Got a Winchester Model 1886 from my dad who got it from his dad. Story goes my grandfather bought the rifle as a 40-82 but shells would not work. Took back and gunsmith who said it was marked wrong at the factory and remarked it to a 45-70. That?s what it is today. Can this be true.
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    charliemeyer007charliemeyer007 Member Posts: 6,579 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There aren't all that many choices for factory calibers. You should be able to do a quick and dirty test with some clay to figure out what it is. A real chamber cast is easy enough.
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    Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Stan,

    All Winchester Model 1886 barrels were marked with the caliber in two locations; (1) the top of the barrel just forward of the frame ring; (2) on the underside of the barrel about 2-inches from the receiver frame.

    The standard barrel length for the Model 1886 Rifle was 26-inches for all calibers except the 33 WCF. Extra Lightweight Rifle barrels were 22-inches.
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    navc130navc130 Member Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A chamber cast with Ferro-Safe is easy to do and if you cast two inches into the bore you can measure the bore size also. If you can measure the bore fairly accurately and it is .45 odds are it is 45-70.
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    neacpaneacpa Member Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the information to all. Will get it checked out for sure.
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    truthfultruthful Member Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The standard location for the rear site dovetail on a standard 1886 is about 4 3/4 inches from the front of the receiver. If yours is significantly closer the barrel may have been shortened from the chamber end thus removing the caliber marking.
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    tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Number one...if it is in decent shape, and is serviceable(shootable), you did not get hurt for $600.00. You can take $75.00, and get a letter from Cody...Bert H can help you with that.

    Have a FULL SERVICE gun shop(Not a sell and chop shop) do a chamber cast, and it will tell you what the chamber is. They can also check headspace while they are at it.

    Does the barrel have a proof mark on it in front of the frame ring? Does the frame ring have a proof mark? If either location has a proof mark, it is not original as it was, when it left the factory at it's birth.
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