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Sigma

jacksvjacksv Member Posts: 35 ✭✭
edited October 2001 in Ask the Experts
I have a S&W Sigma model 40C. I have a book on backorder that has serial numbers by year. In the meantime can anyone help on this one. Serial Number PAL24XX. It must have been a police gun because it has FCPD on the side.ThanksJack
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  • JudgeColtJudgeColt Member Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What kind of a book has Sigma serial numbers in it? While I am far from a Smith & Wesson expert, I have seen no more current Smith & Wesson serial number charts than are contained in the Roy Jinks' 1977 "History of Smith & Wesson." Please tell me what book you are getting that has later serial numbers, so I can get one too.
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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Jack if it's like my sigma you have a very nice paper weight. Ain't good for anything else.
    So many guns to buy. So little money.
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  • njretcopnjretcop Member Posts: 7,975
    edited November -1
    When they came out around 1995, I purchased the same gun that you have at the police price of $425.00. The following year when I went to sell it, I had to give it away. What a piece of crap! The only reason I was unable to unload it was because it had two hi cap magazines with it.
    Guns don't kill people, it's the bullets, stupidI am the NRA, the KABA, NJ Area Rep for the 2ampd, and the AARP :(njretcop@copmail.com
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  • jacksvjacksv Member Posts: 35 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree with you all. After shooting it I think I got a $280.00 paper weight.The only positive thing about it is that it nevers jams but of course outside of 15' I can't hit the target. I got a 9MM CZ that can go in a 3" circle at 50'. That's what I get for wanting a 40SW. My son is on the police force and they changed from Sigma to Sig.JackJack
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  • smooth_operatorsmooth_operator Member Posts: 227 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Are they really that bad? Some people have compared the Sigma against a Steyr M40 in one of these forums...okay, so I'm not so sure if either one of them is worth anything. BTW, Those of you who still have the high caps for a sigma 40, I'm looking for some.-Smooth
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  • jacksvjacksv Member Posts: 35 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I shot it today at the range. If its held very steady its more accurate than I thought. I think its the lousy trigger thats the problem. Its all one unit like the 22A so I guess a trigger job is out of the question. However, I must say, I have not had jam or any type of feeding problem.Jack
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  • j2k22j2k22 Member Posts: 329 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bought the .40 cal Sigma new from my local gunshop when they first came out; paid $500. Used it in IDPA-style programs quite successfully for about 9 months. Probably ran 3-4K rounds through it, mostly 175 gr SWC hard cast lead over 4.5 gr Bullseye. It was plenty accurate enough for this job, and felt good in the hand. The tip of the firing pin got rounded as it dragged across the primer during ejection; S & W replaced at no charge. Had no malfunctions of any sort other than when the f/p tip was rounded, got some failures to fire. The visible effect of the .40's hitting bowling pins was every bit as good as with 200gr SWC .45's. By the end of a 2 1/2 hour, 200-round session, my trigger finger was getting tired, and people who should'nt have been able to were cleaning my clock on bowling pins, so I went back to my 1911 to uphold my good name. Sold the Sigma for $550, with 6 mags, an IWB holster, and a couple hundred rounds of loads. I would rate it as being as good as the Glocks, and I prefer the Sigma grip angle and drop-free mags. I know that many people hate Sigmas, but mine was quite satisfactory.
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  • JudgeColtJudgeColt Member Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree with j2k22. I like the Sigma a lot better than the Glock, largely because of the grip angle and shape. It may not be as good as the Glock for ultimate durability (what is?), but I do not consider it as bad as some have posted. Mine has been totally reliable, but my round count is not very high. jacksv, what about the book on Smith serial numbers? What is it?
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  • lrarmsxlrarmsx Member Posts: 791 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    BTW the Sigma came out in 1994, not 1995. The 40 cal was released in April, the 9mm was released in July. That's why there high cap mags are so few and far between, the gun wasn't made for very long before the Crime Bill of September 13th, 1994.
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  • jacksvjacksv Member Posts: 35 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi JudgeColt:I didn't forget you. I ordered the book through my cousin and don't know the exact title. It should be in within 7 days. Send me your email address and when it comes in I let you know all the info. You can email me at: jsvoboda@mediaone.net that way I'll have your email address.
    Jack www.northamptongolf.com
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  • ATFATF Member Posts: 11,683 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have two Sigmas in .357 Sig Cal. Model SW 357 V One has been fired the other is new in the box.I called Smith & Wesson and they told me they only made a few.
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  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Now you have me interested. My .40 cal Sigmacame with one 10 round mag and a mail in certificate for a high capasity mag. After I got the one sometime later a second one arrived so I have one 10 rd & two hi-caps. How much are these mags worth? I don't really want to sell just curious.
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  • jacksvjacksv Member Posts: 35 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gruntled:I think they are worth about $65.00.
    Jack www.northamptongolf.com
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  • jmrksjmrks Member Posts: 17 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Regarding the Sigma, I must agree with a few posters above. As a retired police sergeant and a firearms instructor, I witnessed more range malfunctions with the Sigma than any other weapon in use. Many police departments jumped on the Sigma band wagon when they first came out. But remember, due to budget problems, a police agency may carry what they get the best deal on. That does not mean it preformed better. My group tested seveal and recommended the Glock. Despite our strong recommendation, the city decided to buy the Sigma because it was cheaper. So, our weeks of testing efforts were worthless. There is NO comparison between the Glock and Sigma. I have always considered Sigma as a very cheap imitation. Although I must agree that the Sigma's grip feels much more natural.
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  • TeamblueTeamblue Member Posts: 782 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was recently doing a qualifying shoot for a part-time contract guard postion with a federal law enforcement agency. The agent beside me was shooting a Sigma .40 and experienced 3 separate failures to fire during the course of fire. He saved these rounds and we later saw small firing pin marks on the primers. I asked him if I could try the rounds again in my Glock 27 and he agreed. All three rounds (Winchester Ranger LE-only ammunition) fired without fail in my Glock. He was amazed. Personally I would never carry a SW Sigma. This personal account is not the only problems I have heard of with these pistols. It has got to go bang the first time and every time and if it is going to be in my holster it will be a Glock or a Sig. Teamblue[This message has been edited by Teamblue (edited 10-11-2001).]
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