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Winchester Model 1892 help
viprdude
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So far I have gathered not much information on this model firearm.
I really need some guide or someone to let me know how I can take the butt stock off so I can check to see if any serial numbers are on this.
It is a .44 caliber rifle with a 16" barrel
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I want to know as much as I can about this firearm. I want to restore it and give it to my Dad as a present. He got this as a kid and did nothing in terms of fixing it or restoring it. I think this would be a great gift but I clearly have my work ahead of me (as those pictures can tell anyone)
I'd remove the screws from the upper and lower tang and pull the stock off.
Yep, it's that simple and no other disassembly is necessary. Remove the tang screws and carefully slide the buttstock to the rear. It may be a bit sticky due to years of oil buildup so be careful not to wiggle the wood too much so you don't cause any splintering near the tang.
BTW, make sure you use a gun screwdriver that fits.
Due to its barrel length being less that 16". Should this be a concern or does its age preclude any problems?
BTW, make sure you use a gun screwdriver that fits.
Good question. The absence of the serial number precludes anyone from determining the manufacture date (pre or post-1899) but I would hope that 1/8" wouldn't be a major issue.
I cannot find a serial number inside of these parts anywhere. I am disappointed that I cannot date this model firearm any further and be sure of my answers.
Anyone else help??
http://aaa-webs.com/aaa/webs/homestead/courses/1892/1892model-configurations.htm
Hello BERT H may be along he tells it like it is I seem to remember the serial number being defaced when the rifle was sent back for repair and stamped WRACO Winchester Repeating Arm Co . a SHORT BARREL GUN /RIFLE is not legal without paperwork pre 1898 or not Take a cleaning rod and with the action closed let the cleaning rod down the barrel until it touches the bolt face now mark the cleaning rod at the muzzel end and hope it is 16 inches or more. This rifle is in fairly poor condition and BEYOND restoration IMHO but wait until some others give their opinion.
Yes I did this and it is 16" long. I am restoring it as we speak. I am not looking to sell this or have it leave my family. I want to restore it and give it to my father as a gift.
This site indicates that this weapon is a trapper's carbine contrary to Bert
http://aaa-webs.com/aaa/webs/homestead/courses/1892/1892model-configurations.htm
That web site is absolutely incorrect! Octagon (or 1/2 octagon) barrel = RIFLE
Carbines (including Trapper Carbines) were made with round barrels only.
quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
Hello BERT H may be along he tells it like it is I seem to remember the serial number being defaced when the rifle was sent back for repair and stamped WRACO Winchester Repeating Arm Co . a SHORT BARREL GUN /RIFLE is not legal without paperwork pre 1898 or not Take a cleaning rod and with the action closed let the cleaning rod down the barrel until it touches the bolt face now mark the cleaning rod at the muzzel end and hope it is 16 inches or more. This rifle is in fairly poor condition and BEYOND restoration IMHO but wait until some others give their opinion.
Yes I did this and it is 16" long. I am restoring it as we speak. I am not looking to sell this or have it leave my family. I want to restore it and give it to my father as a gift.
If you have a crescent style buttplate and in the absence of a saddle ring, combined with a mag tube longer than the barrel, I do not believe you have a trapper but a cut-down rifle. Check the very link you provided for further information. If that barrel is judged by ATF to be less than 16", it's in violation of federal law and the only thing you'll be leaving your heirs is the possibility of 10 years in Club Fed and a $250,000 fine.
I believe your rifle originally looked like this (note the shape of the stock and the crescent buttplate):
Is there any way that I can find a more detailed history of these Model 1892 firearms?
I want to know as much as I can about this firearm. I want to restore it and give it to my Dad as a present. He got this as a kid and did nothing in terms of fixing it or restoring it. I think this would be a great gift but I clearly have my work ahead of me (as those pictures can tell anyone)
Yes there is, but you will need to send me clear well illuminated close-up pictures of all the markings on the barrel, and on the upper tang behind the hammer. With all of that information, I can determine the specific timeframe that it was made within the known 1892 - 1941 manufacturing period. You can send pictures to me at Win1885@msn.com
I am restoring it as we speak. I want to restore it and give it to my father as a gift.
Stop right now. You obviously do not understand what the term "Restoration" really means. It is painfully obvious that you are neither a gunsmith, or a restoration specialist.
A true "restoration" costs big $$$$ (as in a few thousand dollars), and it requires someone who is intimately familar with the make & model of gun in question, and has all of the proper tooling necessary to make or rebuild worn and damaged pieces and parts.
A "refinish" can be accomplished by most skilled gunsmiths, and even it is not cheap (way more money than a Cody factory letter, which you stated you could not afford).
Frankly speaking, unless you have at least $400 in your budget, you should not do anything to that old Winchester at all.