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30,03

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edited October 2009 in Ask the Experts
Was this a new case when designed or an adaptation of another design?

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  • CapnMidnightCapnMidnight Member Posts: 8,038 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Totaly new concept, as far as U.S. arms makers are concerned.
    W.D.
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Technicaly, it's the offspring of the 7mm Mauser round (note they both have a 12mm head diameter), but as stated above it was a new design for the US.
    Remember we had just finished the Spainish-Americian war, and had found that the Mauser designed rifles and cartridge kicked the 45-70 and 30-40's butt (only the "elete" troops had the Krag, the majority were still packing Trapdoor Springfields). Fortunatily, for us, this was primarly a naval war.
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  • Hawk CarseHawk Carse Member Posts: 4,378 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think the .30-03, .30-06, and Springfield rifle are based a lot on Not Invented Here and Longer, Lower, and Wider attitudes.
    Although the round and the rifle have a lot of Mauser characteristics - we paid Mauser royalties on action, ammo, and stripper clip right up to WW I - the in house designers had to make the gun a little different and the cartridge a little bigger.
    We would have been at least as well off to pay a little more license money and built straight Mausers in the hypothetical 7.62x57 (.30 x 2 1/4")caliber.
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