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pistol scopes

till711till711 Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
edited October 2010 in Ask the Experts
I have a 7 1/2" ruger redhawk in 454 Casull. I bought a Burris 2x7 posilock variable for it. It lasted 8 shots before going permanently out of focus. I sent it in the Burris and they remedied the problem. I remounted and the same thing happened after 10 shots. I sent back into Burris and they fixed it. I had the pistol magna-ported and remounted scope. It lasted about 15 shots before same thing happened again. Questions:
1. Would a fixed power scope be less likely to go out of focus like this?
2. Can anybody recommend a scope brand less likely to do this on a Casull? I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that the Burris can't take it.
many thanks,
Chris

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  • till711till711 Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would like to know if anyone can give me an idea of what would be a good scope to put on a Ruger Super Redhawk in 454 Casull?
  • wtroperwtroper Member Posts: 736 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Chris,

    I use Leupold 4X on my FA M83 454s. I have had no problem with them after many many rounds. Be sure that you have a good mount & rings.

    I have heard of several recent problems with Burris scopes on hard recoiling handguns. I have no personal experience with Burris handgun scopes other than with a couple of 2Xs that I had on milder revolvers in the past. I had no problem with the 2Xs.
  • charliemeyer007charliemeyer007 Member Posts: 6,572 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    +1 M8 2X Leupold
  • dfletcherdfletcher Member Posts: 8,178 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by till711
    I have a 7 1/2" ruger redhawk in 454 Casull. I bought a Burris 2x7 posilock variable for it. It lasted 8 shots before going permanently out of focus. I sent it in the Burris and they remedied the problem. I remounted and the same thing happened after 10 shots. I sent back into Burris and they fixed it. I had the pistol magna-ported and remounted scope. It lasted about 15 shots before same thing happened again. Questions:
    1. Would a fixed power scope be less likely to go out of focus like this?
    2. Can anybody recommend a scope brand less likely to do this on a Casull? I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that the Burris can't take it.
    many thanks,
    Chris


    Kind of surpised happened, they're usually pretty good. I have some on 375 JDJ, 375 H & H and 405 Winchester handguns (T/C Encore, no brake) and no issues. I'd expect a fixed power scope has fewer parts so logically that would seem to help. Maybe a fixed Leupold is the way to go?

    One thing that may help - consider "scope flex" when picking a scope and mounting. A long tube scope may flex too much during recoil and damage the scope, here's a lousy rifle example, you can imagine what happens when your 454 goes off:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5pVya7eask

    A short, well supported scope such as a fixed 4X may flex very little. I have long 5X and 12X Burris that I wouldn't put on anything heavy. I have some Weaver 4X and 2.5 to 8X on 45/70 & 350 Rem Mag pistols that have been around for a long time.
  • 4440rk4440rk Member Posts: 495 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have Burris 2X on a Super RedHawk.(I took for granted that you just left off the super part.) Has a little over 250 rounds of full house .454 and over 500 of fairly hot .45 fired and have never touched the scope since I mounted it.

    If I were you a phone call to Burris and ask their opinon on what is going on before giving up on that scope. I have had excellent service from them. YMMV
  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    till711,

    I have never had a problem with the Burris variable power handgun scopes. I have even had them mounted on such beasts as an XP-100R in 350 Remington Magnum. I have heard that the 460, and 500 S&W rounds are hard on any optic. It could have to do with the way your scope is mounted. Did you lap the rings for maximum true contact? Did you properly torque the ring cap screws to no more than 15 inch pounds? Burris is not one to have a lot of problems witheir stuff. I suggest you talk to someone there, and Ruger(about their rings)

    Best
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It sounds like you have misaligned rings; Burris scopes can take any recoil you can throw at them, without failing.

    Try using Burris Signature Rings to compensate for any misalignment, you will see an improvement.

    I had a 1.5X6 Signature fail TWICE on a 338 Winchester mag rifle. the rings were the issue, applying torque to the scope inducing the failure.
  • till711till711 Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Guys thanks for all the excellent feedback. I didn't think about the ring issue, I just mounted the Ruger rings and put the scope on so maybe there is some torque on the scope. There has been no slippage through the rings though. Since the Ruger rings have no windage adjustment, how can I get the front and rear rings perfectly aligned? Now that I look at it, it looks like there is a little rotational play in each ring as I tighten down the set screw. Is this normal? Would a different brand of ring help?
    thanks again,
    Chris
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