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Please ID these parts

gnprtsgnprts Member Posts: 345 ✭✭
edited July 2016 in Ask the Experts
I have had them in a miscellaneous box for a long time and would like to know what they are. One has the letter R on it.

Thanks

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    gnprtsgnprts Member Posts: 345 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The front of the bolt is missing and has a 12 gauge barrel. Looks like a rifle converted to shotgun.

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    rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    EDIT!

    The OP's bolt doesn't look like a Gras bolt? Hard to call specifically? Might be a Chassepot, or some other 19th Century BP rifle, that has been reworked into a shotgun?



    Looks like a French Gras carbine, that been reworked into a shotgun?

    Standard French, BP, single shot used in the 1870's & 1880's.





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    62fuelie62fuelie Member Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In that same period of military history our army issued smooth-bored versions of the standard rifles or carbines for use as "forager's" guns to provide fresh meat to supplement rations. Could this be of similar intent?
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    rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 62fuelie
    In that same period of military history our army issued smooth-bored versions of the standard rifles or carbines for use as "forager's" guns to provide fresh meat to supplement rations. Could this be of similar intent?


    Although the U.S. Army, issued a forager version of the Trap Door Springfield. Don't believe European armies did also. Most of the reworked obsolete rifles, that were converted into shotguns. Similar in appearance to the OP's. Were first generation breech loaders. That were converted by private companies. Into to inexpensive utility guns, years later. Some times as late, as the early years of the 20th Century.


    I got a Sears catalog from 1902. Showing various post the War of Northern Aggression era, Springfield Trap Doors and Sharp's. Selling for less than $3.00. The shotgun versions would probably sell for more money.
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    chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 13,792 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I believe Rufe is correct. The bolt is for the short barreled Gras or Gras musketoon.
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