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Nikon P-Tactical Vs. Vortex

RCrosbyRCrosby Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
edited August 2018 in Ask the Experts
Have noticed significant similarities between the Nikon red dot and the Vortex to the point that they appear to be made by the same folks.
Looks are quite similar, as are features and price point.
Anyone know more about these two sights?
Want to put one on my Ruger Mk. IV Target.
Any experience and/or knowledge re: either or both greatly appreciated.
Rob
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Burris also sells, a very similar red dot. I don't know as a absolute certainty, but I suspicion. That they are all made by the same manufacturer in China.

    I have two of the Burris's. Ok for short range handgun work. But the red dot, turns into a irregular red blob at longer distances. Changed the battery and cleaned the lens. It still a blob past 25 yards.

    Bought a larger one, sold by a outfit named Dagger Defense. Much, much more happier with it. Red and green reticules, with a choice of 4 different types. (I prefer the green ones.) The only draw back on this DD red dot. Is that physically it's twice the size of the Burris's.
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Probably 4 MOA Rufe instead of 2 MOA. I have two of the Burris Fastfire 2s and two of the Fastfire 3s and an Aimpoint Micro H-2. Aimpoint is higher quality optics and hologram, but I have had no problems with the Burris, and have one on a rabbit rifle. Dream Plastics makes a great rubber cover for the Fastfire sights, available at Amazon or from Dream Plastics, 2 for $10. The Aimpoint is indeed more expensive, about double the FF3s. The Eotech is marginally better than Aimpoint, but at an even higher price point.

    Rob, none of us have touched upon your actually question. In looking at the Vortex, the Fastfires we speak of are analogous to the Vortex Razor. If you are getting in to closed optical red dot versions those are more like the Aimpoint and Eotech versions. I can only say I have some Vortex binoculars and I think they are a good value for the price. Hardly top shelf, but perhaps better than expected for the price point. I suspect the red dots will serve you well, but do some comparison shopping to be sure there are real savings to be had over very similar products by the other manufacturers.
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,146 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Probably 4 MOA Rufe instead of 2 MOA. I have two of the Burris Fastfire 2s and two of the Fastfire 3s and an Aimpoint Micro H-2. Aimpoint is higher quality optics and hologram, but I have had no problems with the Burris, and have one on a rabbit rifle."

    I agree that AimPoint is a better quality dot sight. In most cases, it also is more expensive.
    Also have a FF2 & FF3 both 3MOA dots and either provides a usable aiming point past 100 yards IF the illumination is kept to a suitable level. For longer ranges, you can turn the power down until you can see the target through the dot.
  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    off the subject slightly but if you are putting a red dot on a
    ruger mark 4you may want to read my suggestion on Bulls
    EYe pistol shooting I have shot bulls eye since 1964 and got into red dots when they were allowed in NRA matches shooting in both EXPERT & Master class unlesyou can hold a pistol very very still do not try a small dot like a 2 minute if you do it will be akeen to shooting a Rifle off hand with a 20 X scope after I turned 65 I started getting a slight tremor a small dot will give you fits I shoot a 8 minute dot and it looks more like it floats also like even a 10 minute or even a 12 minute dot that way if the whole dot is inside any part of the black
    shot will be a 10 0r X I still run a 900 match every week 22 lr and coach new shooters I did go to Camp Perry for 31 years in a row
    "PRAISE THE HARD BALL GUN. CHEERS Karl o
  • RCrosbyRCrosby Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Perry Shooter.,

    Always good to read your comments. Have done a fair share of competitive shooting over the years, though no where near what you have done. A fair amount of indoor postals and even managed to take an NRA state championship for silouette, iron sight, using my K-38.
    The red dot, even small and compact, offends my sensibilities and at 70 I still prefer iron sights. That said, I like the dot for occasional testing of ammo off of sandbags. So, I may just stick with the bulky but quite functional unit I have.
    Happy Trails,
    Rob
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