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1909 Argentine Mauser Nedinsco scope mounting

ErnestocErnestoc Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
edited October 2018 in Ask the Experts
Hi all,
Need your help.
I have a 1909 Argentine Mauser and an original Nedinsco scope. My goal is to convert this beautiful rifle into a sniper rifle.
Does anyone now a reliable gunsmith in Florida that could mount the Nedinsco in the Mauser?
Need someone that is used to mounting vintage scopes in Mausers, like the ZF39 in the K98, etc.
I'd appreciate your input.
Best

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    rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Found this on-line. Of a original 1909 Argentine sniper, with Zeiss Nedinsco scope. Click on the magnifying glass, to enlarge the photo.

    Unless you have the original mounts and rings. And the bolt handle is forged/bent. As shown in the photos. Your just going to screw a up a Argentine Mauser. Not going to be original at all, IMHO.

    I don't know, about the Zeiss Nedinsco? But also a lot of the old scopes, didn't have integral windage adjustments. The windage adjustment, was in the rear mount.





    https://forums.gunboards.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=937215&d=1442448924
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    nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here are the right rings you need for any degree of authenticity:

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    Best.
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    jaegermisterjaegermister Member Posts: 692 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not only do you need the mounts but the rings may require removal of the scope
    lens ., if you want originality. If you want to turn it into a scoped 1909
    without alteration there are other options.
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    ErnestocErnestoc Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank you all,
    I have the original mount and an original bent bolt. My scope looks exactly as the one in the photos.
    The rings are already attached to the scope, I had this done when I serviced the scope in Argentina a long time ago.
    You are right, the Nedinsco windage is the rear mount, you have to slightly move the scope right or left to adjust.
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    mrmike08075mrmike08075 Member Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One of my Argentine snipers (a model 1891) has an identical set up to the above referenced attached photograph including the turret bases and the claw mounts and the scope / down to the one piece rings

    One of my Argentine Mauser sniper rifles (a model 1891) has a long eye relief forward mounted scout scope set up utilizing the diminutive German optics

    My Persian / Iranian sniper rifle is similar to the above-mentioned / pictured set up but with a different brand - manufacture of scope

    The external adjustment statement is a keen observation as most folks don't realize that German Mauser - based sniper platforms came with optics that required external adjustment

    Both of my Japanese imperial Army type 99 sniper rifles have optics that require external adjustment - this set up being the example of no internal adjustment availability that most of us are familiar with

    Mike
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    ErnestocErnestoc Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi mrmike,
    That is quite a collection! Congratulations!
    This project would be my first military vintage sniper.
    Do you know of any reliable gunsmith that could install the Nedinsco on my Argentine Mauser?
    I am in Florida.
    Thank you
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    rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Long as the scope is assembled, to the mount and rings. So that the layout of the tapped holes. Can be transfer punched to the top of the receiver, in the correct position.

    The only problem the gunsmith will face, is that the holes in the front mount. Will have to be drilled blind,I.E. (very shallowly). Definitely don't want holes drilled through. To the locking lug recesses.
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    mrmike08075mrmike08075 Member Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The only gunsmithing contact I have / had in Florida is Rebel Refinishing - I had at least a dozen guns refinished by them and they also did a bunch of minor gunsmithing for me...

    I don't think they can do the specialist work that you require - but I could be wrong / and they could recommend someone whom they farm out work to...

    I do advise some care and caution when dealing with sniper scopes and mounts - there are some pretty good reproductions out there - and some counterfeit ones made / altered to deceive

    The British Enfield "t" type sniper rifle can be made entirely from reproduction parts as well as the M1 garand type C and D...

    Most of the German platforms and the mosin nagant / SVT / dragunov family you are more likely to encounter repros or fakes now over the real deal

    Mike
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    ErnestocErnestoc Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello Mike,
    I contacted Rebel Finishing through a friend that lives in the area and they don't know of anyone that could do this job.
    Need to keep on searching.
    Thank you
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    rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Ernestoc
    Hello Mike,
    I contacted Rebel Finishing through a friend that lives in the area and they don't know of anyone that could do this job.
    Need to keep on searching.
    Thank you



    Might consider posting to the the forum below. Sniper rifles of various kinds, is the main interest of it's members. Many of these rifles are very valuable, and require very knowledgeable gunsmiths.

    The gunsmiths, might not be local to you in FL though?



    https://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?7-The-Sniper-Rifle-Forum
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    ErnestocErnestoc Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank you rufe-snow, I will do that.
    Best
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