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Winchester Tong Tool 38-40

v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
edited November 2001 in Ask the Experts
I just bought an 1882 mint 38WCF tong type loading tool with separate Winchester marked mold. I was disappointed that the tool will only recap and crimp but not decap and size.Was there a separate component that performed these functions or didn't they resize? What's the value of these pieces in as new condition?
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  • Der GebirgsjagerDer Gebirgsjager Member Posts: 1,673 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The ones I'm familiar with from years ago had two handles and were hinged on one end like a nutcracker. (right so far?) They had a small die that screwed into the top edge of one of the handles near the hinge end, and that did the resizing. I assume you're missing that part. Lyman still makes a similar tool, but I doubt if the parts interchange. Can't help you on the value, but I bet it would sell quickly.
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This tool has a single nonremovable die plus another station, a case diameter size through hole with a priming punch on the opposite handle. There's no provision for adding another die.
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  • Der GebirgsjagerDer Gebirgsjager Member Posts: 1,673 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Doesn't the case size-through hole resize the case? What do you mean by another station?
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  • mazo kidmazo kid Member Posts: 648 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is a separate depriming piece that fits into the die chamber; however, it is nearly always missing from these tools. I have a few of these tools and don't have ANY of the depriming parts.
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mazo Kid- What did they do about sizing when using this tool?I can see that even without neck sizing a crimp will hold the bullet against compressed black powder but it seems a pretty sloppy business.
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've got the 1894 version in .40-82 with the depriming die. The depriming die looks like an interior dimension of the round and in fact fits inside the fired casing to deprime. Usually the thin depriming rod is broken off from the depriming die but if you have even the broken die a good machininst can drill out the bottom and reinstall the thin rod. In value these run about $60-$80 without the depriming tool or with a broken one. Maybe up to $125-$135 for one with it's deprimer there and fully functional. Now like I said mine is the 1894 version; your 1882 model is probably worth double that especially if it is in mint condition. Beach[This message has been edited by beachmaster73 (edited 11-11-2001).]
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Beachmaster- My understanding of your description suggests the decapper has the bullet shape and maybe part of the neck shape machined into the far end to allow the rod to nest in the seater/crimper die without wobbling.Are there any other features on it?Any ideas on what they did for sizing?
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