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Shipping Ammo

FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
edited November 2001 in Ask the Experts
Okay I read the sticky on it. From what I get from it and what I have been told over the years,
shipping live ammo via the USPS is illegal.

Then my question is; if it is illegal then how are the big sellers on the auction side
getting away with shipping ammo via USPS?
They state they ship USPS and the shipping price they are giving is for Priority Mail.
I know because I know what UPS charges and there is no way I can charge $6 - $7 less to match their shipping price
on the same ammo via UPS.

I now understand why we do not sell as much ammo even though our price for the auction is within line with the rest.
Our shipping cost kills it because we ship within the law.
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What carrier(s) can I ship ammo through? Do you have to declare what is in the shipment? Just need some info on shipping laws governing ammunition. Also, I am not a FFL holder. How can I ship a firearm legally?
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can anyone ship ammo? Let me know of anything special that needs done.Thanks
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am an individual in Illinois and have some ammo I want to put on the auction site. What are the legalities of me selling and shipping? Thanks!
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Am I allowed to ship ammo with the U.S. Postal Service? Seems like people are doing it but it seems to conflict what the postal service says is non-mailable items.

    Thanks,
    Mike
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Guys, our sticky is 7+ years old and I'm wondering if there have been new restrictions placed in these years. I have a couple of boxes of old Colt .32 long that I want to put on the auction side. I don't want to go to jail for this little amount of money.

    Thanks,
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am going to use UPS ground with ORM-D lables but I need to know of any restrictions from one individual in Louisiana to another in Illinois. Is a copy of their FOID card all I need.
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm new to the site so appologies if this is the wrong place to ask this. I'm not a dealer, I just have some ammo sitting around that I no longer have guns for. When I sell it on the auction site, are there any precautions I should take with regard to who I ship to and how?
    Thanks for the help.

    Don W.
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm looking for information on shipping ammo.
    Whats involved shipping a sealed spam can of ammo using UPS ?
    Do you have to tell them whats in the box, or just ship it and shut up?
    I called the ups store today and got the run around-evil ammo lecture.
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    You can ship ammo from a UPS Customer Center (not a franchised UPS store)without any problem whatsoever. The rate will be the regular "per pound" rate as all other consumer goods. Here is a bank of ORM-D Labels you can print on an Avery blank label full sheet page:

    CopyofORM-DLabels.jpg

    Here is what a package of Avery full sheet label media looks like, from Office Depot:

    AveryFullSheetLabelImage.jpg

    Just have your carton well packed and tight with labels attached, and when you go to the computer to make a shipping label at the UPS terminal, write in "consumer" when it asks what type of material is being shipped. When you get your UPS SHIPPING LABEL FINISHED, STICK IT ON YOUR PACKAGE AND TAKE IT TO THE SCALES AND SAY "SHIP IT GROUND" No other action is necessary. They'll weigh it, scan your UPS label and ask you for the money. Pay and you're done.

    Forget about FEDEX, and DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT MAILING AMMO USPS!
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    hi went to usps today about shipping ammo lady was clueless,what are the rules?
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What is the most cost effective way to ship approximately 100lbs of 10mm ammo from one state to another. Fedex wants to charge me around 350$ any other ideas would be great.

    WordBorn!!
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't have an FFL. Can I ship ammo to someone that does not have an FFL ? Thanks
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've been including my extra ammo in my auctions when I sell a gun that I only have one of in that caliber. This is the first time I have ever sold any of my firearms...but just too many right now.

    Shipping is a RIP-OFF!!! USPS won't take it, UPS wants it by contracted businesses only, at $40 per parcel, and Fed-Ex wants $30 per parcel.

    Any other options for shipping????....this is a joke!!!

    Thanks!!!
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I recently sold my last .380 to a fellow 4 states away-gun went expensively but completely legally to his local FFL. I have 300? rds. of older but unfired, in-the-box factory ammo. He wants to buy it on the cheap, which is cool with me-I have no further need.

    I live in a small Rocky Mtn. community. I called our single local UPS and FedEx offices-you'd think I wanted to ship a hundred lbs. of C4 on Air Force One. I check ups/fedex.coms. The hazardous materials pages are absurd and endless. I have to be a certified hazardous materials contract shipper with a pick-up account to even call them. Has it truly become easier to ship an arm than a small quantity of ammo?

    I see ammo for sale on this and other arms sites-often small quantities for prices in the teens by non-FFL's. What do these guys do? What's the average Joe Citizen to do other than 'inadvertantly mistate' the package contents?

    Thanks for any help.
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    hello I have 3 old boxes of remington kleenbore rifle ammo 45-70 that I want to list on gunbroker but I am unsure of how to ship the ammo to a buyer without costing a small fortune any help will be greatly appreciated I can best be contacted at gundoc2000@yahoo.com

    thanks for any help Dan
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I assume that USPS still does not take Ammo? Is that what ya'll see? Lots of people are still using them and seemingly not getting caught. Ive told some not to us them but still see ammo getting shipped through them.
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know you have to ship ammo UPS or FedEx. And you need to mark the outside of the box. How?
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would like to sell .300 WSM ammo on Gunbroker.com that I don't need anymore. I have never shipped ammo before. Need advice on how to ship ammo. Anybody have any tips? Is see UPS requires special labeling, but are there HAZMAT fees? The information on shipping firearms is clear, but ammo not so.
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Friend wants me to ship some 380 ammo to Ohio how can i find out what state or legal to ship to.
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I want to ship my son-in-law some 30-06 ammo. Who will take this Postal service fed-ex or ups????
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Does anyone have any tips for me on shipping ammo out to a buyer? This will be the first time I've ever sold ammon online. REALLY appreciate the help! Thanks!
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What are rules for shipping ammo sold on Gun Broker?
    Can ammo be shipped in same box with a pistol??
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  • duckhunterduckhunter Member Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    SHIPPING AMMO; PLEASE CHECK WITH YOUR CARRIER, THEY SEEM TO CHANGE RULES ALMOST EVERY DAY. YOU CAN SHIP A FIREARM TO ANY FFL DEALER AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A SIGNED COPY OF HIS FFL EXECPT YOU CAN SHIP TO A MFG FOR REPAIR WITHOUT A COPY THE THEIR FFL. AS ALWAYS CHECK WITH YOUR CARRIER FOR THERE REGS.
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  • nmyers@home.comnmyers@home.com Member Posts: 205 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Both FEDEX and UPS have websites that explain all their rules.I believe that they both ship ammo. The package must be labeled "Small arms ammunition ORM-D" on 2 sides. You will probably be charged a substantial hazmat fee, and yes, you must declare the contents.Aside from the carrier rules, you need to have proof that the recipient is eligible to receive ammo, according to federal law.Neal
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  • M.OpaliskiM.Opaliski Member Posts: 244 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    UPS Ground is the way to go. There is no Hazardous Materials fee for ammunition under .50cal, nor is there a charge for any specific quantity ... i.e. 500 or 1,000 rounds. As stated it must be clearly marked on two sides with the following ....Small Arms AmmunitionORM-DSmall Arms Ammunition
    Support your RKBA ... MatthewNRA Life MemberTalk Radio Junkie opaliski@hotmail.com TheFirearmsEnthusiast
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  • EOD GuyEOD Guy Member Posts: 931 ✭
    edited November -1
    There are also specific packaging requirements. Basicly, center fire ammunition must be packaged in inner boxes or clips so that the primers are protected. Also, the weight of an ORM-D package is limited to 30 KG (66 Lb). The ORM-D marking is supposed to be enclosed within a rectangle that is at least 1/4 inch larger than the marking on all sides.
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  • FreeInIdahoFreeInIdaho Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks very much to all...most helpful.
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  • M.OpaliskiM.Opaliski Member Posts: 244 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Other Regulated Materials - Class "D"Any material such as a consumer commodity which presents a limited hazard during transportation due to its form, quantity and packaging.
    Support your RKBA ... MatthewNRA Life MemberTalk Radio Junkie opaliski@hotmail.com TheFirearmsEnthusiast
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  • AlerionAlerion Member Posts: 61 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Other Regulated Materials - Class D
    Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
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  • AlerionAlerion Member Posts: 61 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I need to get a faster ISP! :-)
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  • 11thcanopy11thcanopy Member Posts: 448 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    UPS also requires that the shipping container have a "crush" value of 200 pounds/inch.That information is found on the box bottom in a "box certificate" circle.Sometimes they check our packages for the 200 lb/in and other times they don't but they always check for the orm d sticker.If the facility manager refuses to take your package just call UPS 800 # and ask them to call him//her. A lot of the "managers" don't seem to know that they can ship ammo.Hope this helps, 11thcanopy
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