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7.62x39 loading?

jager22jager22 Member Posts: 197 ✭✭✭
edited November 2001 in Ask the Experts
can you use .30 cal (.308) bullets to load 7.62x39? i noticed that they make a .310 diameter bullet for reloading 7.62x 39. i always thought it was a .308 diameter round, what is with the .310?
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  • oneshyoneshy Member Posts: 417 ✭
    edited November -1
    The Russians couldn't do anything the same way as the americans, collaboration you know. As long as you do not exceed 124gr. you should be OK. Hornady lists x39 as .312. Speer lists it as .311. I think you'll find that the larger diam. would be more accurate.
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  • REBJrREBJr Member Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    After that comment, it'd be nice to know which round was actually made first 7.62x39 or .308 so we could see who tried to be different! so how about it, anyone know?
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  • TeamblueTeamblue Member Posts: 782 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The 7.62x39 "intermediate" round was developed for use with the SKS in the mid 1940's so I believe it was first. Right?
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  • RSLINTIIRSLINTII Member Posts: 227 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    30.06 derrived from the 1903 Springfield. They were both 3.08/7.62x54mm, the 3.08 Winchester/ 7.62x51mm NATO came along in 1954 as a shortened version for standard use with US/NATO troops. The Russian 7.62x3.11mm was developed in early 50's. Original 30 caliber was the 1903 Springfield. Best, Robert
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  • oneshyoneshy Member Posts: 417 ✭
    edited November -1
    Which was an improvement of the 30-40 Krag.
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  • Iroquois ScoutIroquois Scout Member Posts: 930 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Metric designation for the .30-06 is 7.62X63 not 54. 7.62X54R for the Mosin-Nagant rifle was developed in 1891. The .30-06 was developed in 1905 from the earlier .30-03 which was the original cartridge for the Springfield 1903 rifle. The .30-03 was the successor to the .30-40 Krag. The 7.62X39 Russian cartridge was developed about 1943 in response to the German 7.92X33 Kurz which was brought out in 1940. The AK-47 was developed in 1945-47 and adopted in 1947 chambered for the 7.62X39 SKS cartridge. The 7.62X51 Nato cartridge was developed between 1950-54 and adopted in 1957. This cartridge is,of course, better known as the .308 Winchester. The 7.5X55 Swiss which was adopted in 1889,was probably the first of the true 30 caliber small bore military cartridges and about equals the .308 Winchester. The .311 groove diameter of Russian military weapons dates back to an obsolete Russian measuring system used before 1900 and never updated.
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  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Member Posts: 5,378 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I assume this means you found the Ruger 77 you were looking for. Contact Ruger or slug the bore. I have a feeling the 77 has a .308 bore.It probably wouldn't be cost effective for them to use a non standard bore size. I have a hunch they just chambered a standard .308 bore to 7.62x39. It's not uncommon for European .30's to be .310-.312 diameter.
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  • boogiemanboogieman Member Posts: 5 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have sluged the Ruger mini 30 and 77 the are both 0.308 bores the sks i don;t know about or care
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  • boogiemanboogieman Member Posts: 5 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have sluged the Ruger mini 30 and 77 the are both 0.308 bores the sks i don;t know about or care
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