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concerning 1911a1 45acp..............

speedoflightspeedoflight Member Posts: 19 ✭✭
edited November 2009 in Ask the Experts
Hello to everyone:

Perhaps I am only a "one trick pony" I got here but can't figure out how to search .

My burning question is; does anyone know about or ever heard of the Weebley Repair Standard...........

WRS list of serial numbers of 1911s purchased by the gov from anyone who could weld and machine guns before WWII, to lend lease to the Allies ?

I have one that was put back together from (it looks like WWI Colts)

with the usual overstrike of the 1911A1 on the R side of the receiver
and the United States Property being very sharp.

Additionally there R the telltale waves on the top of the slide where it was hastily contoured and offered for sale.

Mine was given to me by my fathers friend on the occasion of my 16th birthday in 1967

Complete with the NRA transfer to him by DCM for the sum of $25 in 1947 and his signature when he signed it.

Is it a thasher ? No, since as soon as I got a job and was in ROTC in college (there was 45 ball to shoot until we were ankle deep in brass) I was hot to have a cheap "Gold Cup".

So with more money than brains I had a gunsmith carefully mill a big slot in the top of that old slide and put a S&W K38 adjustable sight on it as was the fashion of 1970 along with a front site + new barrel with the lugs on the slide filled and fitted to the barrel, guide rod etc

Its a retired race gun today because all I shoot now is double deuce, but at least 200 rds down range a week or so.

Since this (my first handgun that is definately WWI gun parts) will be my grandsons,

I would like to know of any more records of by whom, or where it got rebuilt by some talented young man (pre CNC) by about 50 yrs or so.

Thanks to anyone with info, I googled "Weebly repair standard" and got info about computer repair.

Comments

  • MBKMBK Member Posts: 2,918 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You are misspelling Webley.
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,885 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Never heard of Weebley.

    If you would like to post photos of your gun (clear enough to show all markings), we might be able to tell you something about your gun. (No, telling us what they are won't help.)

    The War Dept never bought .45's from just anyone who could weld; during both World War's, they were purchased from reputable companies that had to meet strict specifications.

    Many 1911's & 1911A1's were repaired or rebuilt by US arsenals. It was shipped to your father's friend directly from one of these arsenals. If he had some commercial gunsmith work on it before you had a commercial gunsmith work on it, there's no way that we could help you find out who did it.

    Yes, we would now call your gun a "shooter" or a "beater", as it has been altered to the point that it no longer has any collector value.

    Neal
  • partisanpartisan Member Posts: 6,414
    edited November -1
    Photos are really needed.
  • speedoflightspeedoflight Member Posts: 19 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi Everyone:

    Thanks for the responses.

    NMyers, thanks for the info, I also concluded (long ago) that it is only a "shooter" for that reason I had an adj rear site installed and
    blued from parked.

    As a kid I had removed the "hershey bars" and installed new Colt National Match walnut (with gold Colt emblems) grips already.

    I recall they cost me about $12 too.

    No gunsmith had touched the gun from when my dads friend got it from the DCM and then to me.

    I did not mispell "Weebley" I read it once and I have the physical proof in my hand of 1911a1 that sports a ser no that ends with "WRS".

    The only connection to Britain was all the guns that the US govt were buying, were going to be "lend leased" to Britain.

    Some of the small arms that were lend leased did indeed come home after the war.

    I have a very nice Enfeild No4 Mark1 that says proudly US Property
    and shows the Savage carouche,

    moreover it has a South African cartouche showing that it was accepted, not that it was issued.

    A large U with the British Broad Arrow "pheon" (oldest trademark in the world) stamped at the top of the rec that is exposed next to the handgard.

    The best part is since these came back to the USA, there R no importers marks on it.



    I was told that many old 45s (WWI excessively worn) receivers and slides were torched right thru the opening for the slide lock just forward of the plunger tube.

    That for instance one young fireball named Packmeyer in LA was jamming 45s together and making lots of money.

    The irony in life is that sometimes things return to where they came from and I wanted to find out when, (probably in the 30s) these were done. These predated the US entrance into WWII.

    Remember my benefactor bought it in 1947 living in Bakersfield Ca. from the DCM.

    Anyways thanks for answering sir
  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello I would love to see pictures of your pistol The Foreign sales Pistols that were Sold to England were 1911 not 1911A1's and these WW I pistols were serial number W29117 -W97000 about 1700 pistols. I have never seen any mention of WRS but have seen M.M.W. Ministry of Munitions of War.again I think it would be great if you could post some pictures of this pistol and the DCM /CMP papers I have never known any pistols that came back from other countries and then sold to civilians. Not doubting your statements I just would love to study your pistol and without travel then pictures would be the next best way. Thanks Karl AKA PERRY SHOOTER
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