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308, 223, 8mm, 270 realistic range of use
CHEVELLE427
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just wondering what CAL BELOW would be realistic for LONG range SHOOTING
LONG RANGE AS IN THE MAX ONE WOULD BE USEFULL
CENTIME 308,
AR 223 ,
MAUSER 8mm,
A-BOLT 270
NE 45-70
K31 7.5X55
91-30 7.62X54R
AS YOU CAN SEE NOT MANY BIG GUNS[:(]
would like to set something up for distance not that we have any long range places to shoot around here[:(]
LONG RANGE AS IN THE MAX ONE WOULD BE USEFULL
CENTIME 308,
AR 223 ,
MAUSER 8mm,
A-BOLT 270
NE 45-70
K31 7.5X55
91-30 7.62X54R
AS YOU CAN SEE NOT MANY BIG GUNS[:(]
would like to set something up for distance not that we have any long range places to shoot around here[:(]
Comments
but if i ever got out to the plains and wanted to reach out and touch something ?
wouldn't be hunting more like precision shooting, would like to try 800-1000yd some day, just because, friends that shoot 500yd says th 308 has been good for them.
out to 800-1000 yards, in fact almost every cartgidge your
shooting has been used by the worlds militaries for there
snipers along with being popular for competition
purposes. The question to ask yourself is "what gun groups
the best at 200 yards"? If it shoots well at 200, and you do
your job, it'll still work well out at long range.
For varmints size things I'd look at the 223 cartridge, even though I won't let a AR in my house.
The rest, while fun to play with, are not what I call "accuracy platforms". Not to say they aren't good, just that they are not designed for the accuracy levels I demand for my LR rifles (my Garand is fun to play with, but it's not my go-to distance platform even though it fires the same cartridge as my go-to rifle does)
its fun to keep all in the black at 200 and the guy next to you has trouble keeping it on the paper at 100 with his $1500 setup.
it is getting harder to see everything now days so im looking at a distance scope for one of them,
270, 308, AR , HAVE SCOPES
MIGHT LOOK FOR A GOOD BOLT GUN IN 308[:p]
RELOAD FOR ALL=====91-30 & M44 SOON
I all honesty, you don't have anything that will answer your question as stated.
"...wouldn't be hunting more like precision shooting, would like to try 800-1000yd some day,..."
Sure, all of the cartridges listed have been pressed into service at one time or another and a couple actually perform adequately out to 1,000 yards. The drawbacks though, when you examine the entire package, are sufficient enough to warrant the statement that none are appropriate. You could make do but your success would minimal at best and probably disappointingly poor.
Using a modern platform designed for long range shooting AND chambered for a cartridge such as the 7.5mm Swiss or 8mm Mauser could be the start of a great project and lots of fun to shoot.
Probably the best idea is the .308 Win., NOT the Cetme, they are two different cartridges. This cartridge has been and is established as a near perfect target/hunting cartridge when the average shooter is behind the stock. However, my suggestion would be for a modern rifle chambered for the 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser cartridge. You might even convince me that a retired Swedish Mauser rifle with the longer barrel, in great condition, could be used successfully, if you could bear to drill and tap it for a scope base...
If this is something that you want to pursue and have consistent, repeatable success, find a good modern platform to get you started out right.
Best.
i know it is a strange bunch i tossed out there, its just one of them things looking for a new use for an old gun[8].
do i need a distance gun ==NO
do i want one ==YES
do i want to buy a new one to start this want== maybe
i like the ones i have but they are what they are, was leaning toward the browning or the swiss.
i don't need a $2000+ set up for sure,
i have no idea what some call long range , like said around here shotgun is about all you have a use for. unless it is a power line.
25-30 yd max on clear shooting in the woods.
might be why i have not killed anything in years except time and paper at the gun range.[:(]
no place to go, or too many people there when you find some were to go[:0]
range is getting like this as well, i stay away on weekends, too busy and too many crazy shooters, range master has his hands full Friday-Sunday.
i like Tue- Thur not many there
BUT one day going to get out of this hole,[:p]
If that was my gun collection I would use the 270.
might just do that ,it is semi set up now for it .
And I quote:
"You can't always get what you want..."
I was trying to be brief with my comments so I didn't stress NOT drilling the Swiss. I couldn't bring myself to do that to a rifle such as this.
"...there are mounts around that are said to clamp on no gun smithing mount runs around $80-90."
Those are garbage and won't be a help at all, they're just cheap. The mounts that are worthwhile cost about 4 times that amount and are designed and machined for accuracy.
i know it is a strange bunch i tossed out there, its just one of them things looking for a new use for an old gun.
do i need a distance gun ==NO
do i want one ==YES
do i want to buy a new one to start this want== maybe
i like the ones i have but they are what they are, was leaning toward the browning or the swiss.
The Browning would be workable but there is a dearth of accurate, long range bullets available for the .270 cartridges. Nosler has a couple and Sierra has a couple but that's about it really.
i don't need a $2000+ set up for sure,
I understand that as most folks don't want to afford those kind of dollars. However, speed and distance both cost money and if you want to pursue this at 1,000 yards as you stated, it will involve some dollars and great glass, above everything else, is required.
If you want to just bang around at 500 yards or so, any decent hunting rifle with a good scope will suffice. Beyond that, desiring to demonstrate some degree of accuracy, money and components come into play.
i have no idea what some call long range , like said around here shotgun is about all you have a use for. unless it is a power line.
25-30 yd max on clear shooting in the woods.
I was working off of your stated '800-1,000 yards'.
Good luck with your planning.
Best.