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S&W Model VS Frame Size?

redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
edited September 2016 in Ask the Experts
hello, does anyone have or can get a list of all the s&w models and what frame each particular model is? I sell a lot of used parts, especially grips ,holsters and some internals and would be great to have a list at the ready, thanks

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    rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Buy a used copy of a early edition. Of the "Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson". I believe they are up to the 4th edition now. All the info you want, would even be in the 1st, edition.

    Most likely you could buy a used copy of one of the earlier editions, for peanuts off one of the net used book dealers.
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    redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    thanks a lot, red
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    andy38340andy38340 Member Posts: 34 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    List I've collected so far....

    J-Frame model #'s
    30, 31, 33, 34, 36, 37, 38, 40, 42, 43, 43C, 48, 60, 317, 332, 337, 340, 342, 351, 360, 431, 432, 437, 438, 442, 631, 632, 637, 638, 640, 642, 649, 650, 651, 940

    K&L Frame model #'s
    10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 48, 53, 64, 65, 66, 69, 386, 396, 547, 581, 586, 617, 619, 620, 646, 648, 681, 686

    N-Frame model #'s
    20, 21, 22, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 57, 58, 325, 327, 329, 520, 544, 610, 625, 627, 629, 657
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    savage170savage170 Member Posts: 37,469 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    X -frame S&W 500 and 460
    z- frame Governor
    I- frame 30,32,34,35
    m-frame Lady Smith

    Add to the L frame 696,646,986
    add to N- frame 929,310,357
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    big mangobig mango Member Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here ... may help some.......


    S&W revolver names before World War II
    Name Caliber Frame
    .22 Hand Ejector Ladysmith 22 Long M
    .22/32 Target 22 Long Rifle I
    .22 Outdoorsman 22 Long Rifle K
    .32 Hand Ejector (round Butt) 32 S&W Long I
    .32 Regulation Police (Square Butt) 32 S&W Long I
    .32-20 Hand Ejector 32-20 Win. K
    .38 Military&Police 38 Spl K
    .38 Hand Ejector (same as above, with
    adjustable sights)
    .38 Regulation Police (Square Butt) 38 S&W I
    .38 Terrier 2" Round Butt 38 S&W I
    .38/44 Heavy Duty (fixed sights) 38 Spl N
    .38/44 Outdoorsman (Adj. Sights) 38 Spl N
    .357 Magnum 357 Mag N
    .44 HAnd Ejector Military Model 44 Spl N
    .44 Hand ejector Model 1926 44 Spl N
    (shrouded extractor rod)
    .45 U.S. Army Revolver, Model 1917 45 ACP N
    .455 Hand ejector British Service 455 Mark II N

    Letter designations assigned S&W Revolvers 1900-1930
    32 Double Action R
    32 Safety Hammerless G
    38 Single Action S
    38 Double Action D
    38 Safety Hammerless Y
    44 Double Action L
    22 Hand Ejector M
    32 Hand ejector I
    38 Military and Police K
    44 Hand Ejector N
    38 Double Action Perfect P
    22 Perfect Single Shot T
    35 Automatic A
    32 Regulation Police B
    38 Regulation Police E
    22/32 Heavy Frame Target V

    Factory Model/caliber designation begun in 1930s
    22/32 Tarket IT22 Square Butt
    22/32 Kit Gun IT22 Round Butt
    K-22 Masterpiece KT22
    32 Hand Ejector I32 Round Butt
    32 Regulation Police I32 Square Butt
    K-32 Masterpiece KT32
    38 Regulation Police I38 Square Butt
    38 S&W Terrier I32 Round Butt
    38 Military & Police K38
    38/44 Heavy Duty N38
    K-38 Masterpiece KT38
    38/44 Outdoorsman NT38
    357 Magnum NT357
    1926 Model 44 Military N44
    1926 Model 44 Target NT44
    1917 Army N45



    S&W Model Listing
    Model year year Frame Caliber Name
    intro Discon Size
    10 1899 K 38 Spl Military & Police
    10 HB 1960 K 38 Spl Military & Police Heavy Barrel
    11 1936 1965 K 38 S&W Military & Police
    12 1953 1986 KA 38 Spl Military & Police Airweight
    13 1974 K 357 Mag 357 Magnum M&P
    14 1947 1982 KT 38 Spl K-38 Masterpiece
    15 1949 KT 38 Spl K-38 Combat Masterpiece
    16 1947 1973 KT 32 S&W Long K-32 Masterpiece
    17 1946 KT 22 LR K-22 Masterpiece
    18 1949 1986 KT 22 LR K-22 Combat Masterpiece
    19 1955 KT 357 Mag 357 Combat Magnum
    20 1930 1966 N 38 Spl 38/44 Heavy Duty
    21 1908 1966 N 44 Spl 1950 Model 44 Military
    22 1917 1966 N 45 ACP 1950 Model 45 Army
    23 1931 1966 NT 38 Spl 38/44 Outdoorsman
    24 1908 1966 NT 44 Spl 1950 Model 44 Target
    24 1984 1984 NT 44 Spl 7500 units reintroduced
    25 1955 1983 NT 45 ACP 1955 Model 45 Target
    25-3 1977 1977 NT 45 Colt 125th Commemorative
    25-4 1977 1977 NT 45 Colt 125th Delux Comm
    25-5 1978 NT 45 Colt 45 Colt
    26 1950 1966 NT 45 ACP 1950 45 Target Light Barrel
    27 1935 NT 357 Mag 357 Magnum
    28 1954 1986 NT 357 Mag 357 Highway Patrolman
    29 1955 NT 44 Mag 44 Magnum
    30 1896 1976 I&J 32 S&W Long 32 Hand Ejector
    31 1917 I&J 32 S&W Long 32 Regulation Police
    32 1936 1974 I&J 38 S&W 38 Terrier
    33 1917 1974 I&J 38 S&W 38 Regulation Police
    34 1936 I&J 22 LR 22/32 Kit Gun 4" barrel
    35 1911 1973 I&J 22 LR 22/32 Target 6" Barrel
    36 1950 J 38 Spl 38 Chief Special
    37 1952 JA 38 Spl 38 Chief Special Airweight
    38 1955 JAC 38 Spl Bodyguard
    39 1954 1981 Auto 9mm 9mm Double Action
    both alloy and steel
    39-1 1960 1960 Auto 38 AMU Commonly called M-52A
    alloy
    40 1952 1974 JS 38 Spl Centennial
    41 1952 Auto 22 LR 22 Semi-Automatic
    41-1 1960 1972 Auto 22 short 22 Short Semi-Auto
    42 1953 1974 JAT 38 Spl Centennial Airweight
    43 1954 1974 JAT 22 LR 22/32 Kit Gun Airweight
    44 1954 1959 Auto 9mm 9mm Semi, Single Action
    alloy
    45 1936 1965 K 22 LR 22 Military & Police
    46 1959 1968 Auto 22 LR 22 Semi Auto
    47 Experimental number used on several guns
    48 1959 1986 KTM 22 WMRF K-22 Masterpiece MRF
    49 1959 JC 38 Spl Bodyguard Steel Frame
    50 1955 1975 JT 38 Spl 38 Chief Special Target
    51 1960 1974 JTM 22 WMRF 22/32 MRF Kit Gun
    52 1961 Auto 38 Spl 38 Chief Special Target
    Steel
    52-A See Model 39-1
    53 1961 1974 KTC 22 Jet 22 center fire magnum
    54 Experimental never issued
    55 Experimental never issued
    56 1962 1963 KT 38 Spl KTX 38 Became Mod 15 2" bl.
    57 1964 NT 41 Mag 41 Magnum
    58 1964 1978 N 41 Mag 41 Magnum Military& Police
    59 1971 1981 Auto 9mm 14 shot 9mm Semi-Auto
    Alloy
    60 1965 J 38 Spl 38 Chief Special Stainless
    61 1970 1973 Auto 22 LR 22 Escort
    62 Experimental never issued
    63 1977 JT 22 LR 1977 22/32 Kit Gun Stainless
    64 1970 K 38 Spl 38 Military&Police Stainless
    65 1974 K 357 Mag 357 Mag M&P Stainless
    66 1971 KT 357 Mag 357 Combat Mag Stainless
    67 1972 KT 38 Spl 38 Combat Masterpiece Stainless
    68 1976 1976 KT 38 Spl California Highway Patrol
    Model Stainless
    69/75 Not officially assigned -- used experimentally
    76 1968 1974 Auto 9mm Machine Pistol
    77 1970 1978 22 cal Air rifle
    78 1971 1978 22 Cal CO2 Pellet Pistol
    79 1971 1978 177 Cal CO2 Pellet Pistol
    80 1975 1978 177 BB CO2 Semi Auto Rifle



    New Model Numbering System
    147-A 1979 1979 9mm 14 shot DA steel frame Model 59
    325PD 2003 N 6 shot 45 ACP, 2.5" barrel, Scandium Frame
    329PD 2003 N 6 shot 44 Magnum, Scandium Frame, Stainless Brl, Ti Cylinder
    340 J 5 shot 357 Magnum, Scandium Frame, shrouded/internal hammer
    396 L 5 shot 44 Special, 3-1/8" barrel, Aluminum alloy frame
    439 1979 9mm 8 shot DA Semi Auto Alloy
    459 1979 9mm 14 shot DA Semi Auto Alloy
    469 1983 9mm 12 Shot DA Semi Auto Alloy
    500 2003 X 5 shot 500 S&W Magnum
    520 1980 1980 N 357 Mag, Fixed Sights
    539 1980 1983 9mm 8 shot DA semi auto Carbon Steel
    547 1980 1985 K Steel 9mm Military & Police
    559 1980 1983 Auto 9mm 14 shot DA Semi Auto Carbon Steel
    581 1980 L 357 Mag Distinguished Service Magnum
    586 1980 L 357 Mag Distinguished Combat Magnum
    610 N 10 mm, 6 shot, stainless
    624 1985 1986 NT 44 Spl 1985 Target Stainless
    625 N 45 ACP and 45 Colt Stainless
    627 N 357 Magnum, Stainless
    629 1979 NT 44 Mag Stainless
    629 Classic N 44 Mag, Stainless, full underlug
    639 1982 Auto 9mm 8 shot DA Semi Auto Stainless
    645 1985 Auto 45ACP DA Semi Auto Stainless
    649 1985 JC 38 Spl Bodyguard Stainless
    650 1982 JM 22 WMRF Service Kit Gun Stainless
    651 1982 JTM 22 WMRF Target Kit Gun Stainless
    657 N 41 Magnum, 6 shot, Stainless
    659 1982 Auto 9mm 14 shot DA semi Auto Stainless
    669 1985 Auto 9mm 12 shot DA Semi Auto Stainless
    681 1980 L 357 Mag Distinguished Service Mag Stainless
    686 1980 L 357 Mag Distinguished Combat Mag Stainless
    686+ L 357 Mag, 7 shot cylinder, Stainless
    SW1911 2003 45 ACP 1911


    Model and Dash numbering system
    Model 10
    -1 1959 Heavy Barrel
    -2 1961 Changed extractor rod thread to LH on standard barrel
    -3 1961 Same as above, for heavy barrel
    -4 1962 Screw in front of trigger eliminated
    -5 1962 1/10" to 1/8" front sight, on standard barrel
    -5 1962 Screw in front of trigger guard eliminated on
    heavy barrel model
    -7 1977 Change to put gas ring from yoke to cylinder
    -8 1977 Change to put gas ring from yoke to cylinder
    on heavy barrel model
    Model 12 1957
    -1 1962 Change extractor rod to LH thread, eliminate
    screw in front of trigger guard
    -2 1962 Front sight changed from 1/10" to 1/8"
    -3 1977 Gas ring on yoke to cylinder
    -4 1984 Change frame thickness to same as all K frames
    Model 13 No designation used to avoid confusion with air force model
    13 air crewman
    Model 13
    -1 1974 Introduced
    -2 1977 Change back to gas ring on cylinder
    -3 1982 eliminate cylinder counterbore
    Model 14,15,16,17,18,48,53 (all start without dash in 1957)
    -1 1959 Change to LH extractor rod thread
    -2 1961 Cylinder stop changed, hole in front of trigger
    guard eliminated
    -3 1967 Relocation of rear sight leaf screw
    -4 1977 Changed gas ring from yoke to cylinder
    19 All of the above changes and
    -5 1982 Eliminate cylinder counterbore

    N-Frame Model Blue

    Model 20,21,22,23,24,25 (except 25-5) 26,27,28,29
    -1 1960 Change to LH thread
    -2 1961 Cylinder stop changed, hole in front of trigger
    guard eliminated
    -3 1982 Eliminate cylinder counterbore (magnums only)
    -4 2004 Thunder Ranch 44 Special, fixed sight
    Model 57 1964 Introduced
    -1 1982 Eliminate cylinder counterbore
    Model 629 1980 Introduced
    -1 1982 Eliminate cylinder counterbore
    Model 25-5 1978 -5 means 45 Colt caliber
    125'th anniversary model, -3 (standard) -4 (delux)
    both of these used a shorter than standard cylinder.
    -7 1985 45 Colt, 5" barrel, unfluted cylinder
    K-Frame Stainless Models
    64 1970 Introduced
    -1 1972 Heavy barrel
    -2 1977 2" standard barrel, gas ring from yoke to cylinder
    -3 1977 Same as above, for heavy barrel
    65 -1 1974 introduced
    -2 1977 gas ring from yoke to cylinder
    -3 1982 Eliminate cylinder counterbore
    66 1971 introduced
    -1 1977 Gas ring from yoke to cylinder
    -2 1982 Eliminate cylinder counterbore
    67 1972 introduced
    -1 1977 gas ring from yoke to cylinder
    39 1957 start of model numbering system
    -1, 1961 Made in 38 AMU cartridge for military 87 made.
    52-A -2 1971 Change of extractor
    41 1957 start of model numbering system
    -1 1960 22 Short chambering
    (dash number not always stamped)
    52 1961 introduced
    -1 1963 Single action only
    -2 1971 Changed extractor
    52-A See model 39-1
    59 1971 introduced, no dash numbers used during production
    61 1970 introduced in March
    -1 May '70 Add magazine safety
    -2 Sep '70 Addition of barrel nut
    -3 1971 Forged Al frame
    76 1968 introduced, discontinued 1974 no dash numbers used

    Small Frame Revolvers
    Model 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35
    1957 Start of numbering system
    -1 1961 Change from I frame to J frame
    36 -1 1967 Indicates 3" heavy barrel
    37, 38, 40, 42, 43, 49, 63, 649, 650, 651
    No dash numbers ued on above numbers
    60 1965 Introduced
    -1 1972 Heavy barrel variation made in 1972, not marketed
    limited production only
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