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Remington 700 or Remington 700 PSS (.308)

mauer@mindspring.commauer@mindspring.com Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
edited January 2002 in Ask the Experts
What is the difference between the Remington 700 (.308) and the Remington 700 PSS (.308)What is the better rifle... Will I have a better MOA with the PSS. Is it worth the extra $300 I relly like to shoot at 300yards and would like a bolt action .308Any information that give will be great Thanks alot

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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    the PSS has a target grade stock, which the standard 700 does not (I assume you were speaking of the wood stock or synthetic model). They also have much better, larger diameter barrels which you will need for 300yd shoots. The actions are also more "true" than the standard 700 actions, Which are great actions by the way. All of these improvements can be quantified at 300yds, therefore, if you want to group the best you can at that distance, the PSS will outperform the standard model hands down.
  • cpermdcpermd Member Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The actions are the same.You can get the same stock on several models of 700s.Also the same barrel.The third sling stud is the main difference.My PSS will shoot though.cpermd
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    cpermd is correct in that the actions are the same, sorry if my statement caused confusion. They are the same actions, however the term "trued" refers to the extra machine shop work inside the action. The slide rails and bolt are machined further until the bolt face holds the bullet in the chamber at a more direct center of bore. the bullet will thus enter the rifling more centered and not off to one side or the other, or closer to the top or bottom etc. You will notice this if you look at the primers from a standard model and the PSS. The PSS casing will have a firing pin strike directly in the center of the primer, and often, standard models or "box" guns will hit slightly ff to one side of center. It may seem like splitting hairs but this is a necessity in long distance shooting and all benchrest as well as TRUE tacticla rifles will have had this done. This is the first step in building any rifle I use for distance. I send it to the gunsmith and have the action trued. That machine shop labor is a large part of the extra $$$$. The stock I beleive is an H&S precision like that of the Sendero and Varmint models. Good stock!!!! At least this is how my "smithy" explained it to me. Buy the PSS.
  • will270winwill270win Member Posts: 4,845
    edited November -1
    A PSS has a full length bedding block, the other Remingtons with Synthetic stocks have action length only. (Sendero)
    If you can't fix it with a hammer, take it to a mechanic. will270win@aol.com ~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
  • cpermdcpermd Member Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Remington does not true or hone the action any more than any other 700.All the 700 HS stocks aluminum beds on VS an PSS and P rifles that I have seen are freefloated and the bedding block stops one inch past the far action screw.This is mainly PR stuff put out so Remington can say the rifles are not available to the public and then charging more for them.
  • will270winwill270win Member Posts: 4,845
    edited November -1
    All 3 of my PSS rifles have FULL LENGTH BEDDING BLOCKS! What they are doing now I don't know but mine go all the way to the front 2 sling studs. My Sendero stops one inch after the action like the Dr is talking about.
    If you can't fix it with a hammer, take it to a mechanic. will270win@aol.com ~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
  • will270winwill270win Member Posts: 4,845
    edited November -1
    I found the magic bullet! The bedding block angles off after the reciver and is covered by the stock material making it look like it ain't going no farther.
    If you can't fix it with a hammer, take it to a mechanic. will270win@aol.com ~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
  • GreenLanternGreenLantern Member Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you were looking at a M700 PSS, how would you know without taking it apart that that's what it was? Does it say PSS or Police anywere on it?
  • will270winwill270win Member Posts: 4,845
    edited November -1
    Look for 2 sling studs on the front of the HS Precision Stock.
    If you can't fix it with a hammer, take it to a mechanic. will270win@aol.com ~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
  • cpermdcpermd Member Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is curious.I have 2 PSS rifles and 2 VSS rifles here.None of the blocks go past the action screw and I can't see why they would.They are all freefloated past the action and will all take at least three bills.Remington may be getting like Colt and using whatever they have.One of the PSS has the old original 5R barrel and the other is 2 years old.cpermd
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