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SPRINGFIELD 30 06 CLIP FED SNIPER YEAR 1903

BORDYBORDY Member Posts: 3 ✭✭
edited January 2002 in Ask the Experts
LOOKING FOR INFO AND OFFERS NEIGHBOR INTERESTED.. DOES NOT USE STRIPPER CLIP. IS BOX CLIP(magazine). CLIP DETACHEABLE FOR REFILL.BEST I CAN DO AS I HAVEN'T SEEN THE WEAPON. I DO KNOW THAT IT IS STILL FUNCTIONAL AND USED EVERY HUNTING SEASON...[This message has been edited by BORDY (edited 01-05-2002).][This message has been edited by BORDY (edited 01-06-2002).][This message has been edited by BORDY (edited 01-06-2002).]
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  • Der GebirgsjagerDer Gebirgsjager Member Posts: 1,673 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sir--we'll need a little more information about what you are referencing here (unless someone reading this is a little less dense than I am). 1903 Springfield-- I know. Fed with a stripper clip-- I know. 1903 Springfield converted to sniper rifle-- I know. But something tells me you are presenting something else. Please read the January 2002 issue of the "American Rifleman" which contains an article on 1903 Springfield sniper rifles.
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  • XracerXracer Member Posts: 1,990 ✭
    edited November -1
    I wonder if he's referring to an M1903 that's box-magazine fed.A few of these were made for air-to-air combat in WWI observation aircraft before Lewis guns were added. I believe that some were also issued to the Balloon Corps for self-defense aloft.[This message has been edited by Xracer (edited 01-06-2002).]
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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    He said its a box clip magazine but that its detachable, that sounds strange, I never heard of a 03 with a detachable magazine of any kind. And we know he doesnt have a pedersen device installed. Whats that leave? Me scratching my head. Sounds like its not an 03. Maybe its an M-14 Springfield ??? Nah. How about an 03 with an after market floor plate that opens for clearing? That could be.
    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • BORDYBORDY Member Posts: 3 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The weapon has a serial no. of 11523 bolt action, magazine fed, military peep sight, with a custom sporting stock, also SAVAGE & SPRNGFIELD stampted on barrel and receiver..[This message has been edited by BORDY (edited 01-06-2002).]
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  • XracerXracer Member Posts: 1,990 ✭
    edited November -1
    Capt. Kirk....the '03 I was referring to, I read about many years ago in (I think) The National Rifleman.It had a detachable box magazine with expanded capacity....if I recall correctly, 10 to 12 rounds.Thinking back on the picture included with the article, I believe the forarm and handguard had been removed.....very much like the "sporterized" '03s seen after the war.Whether this was a factory, or field-expedient modification, I don't recall.
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  • XracerXracer Member Posts: 1,990 ✭
    edited November -1
    Well, I finally found it! (it pays to be a Pack Rat) In an old Flayderman's copyrighted in 1977, Page 451"Model 1903 Rifle Stripped for Air Service. Quantity made 910. Serial number range 857000 to 863000. Barrels dated in first half of year 1918.The Ordnance Report for 1918 lists and describes these pieces as "Stripped for Air Service." Other documentary evidence is not available, but it is believed that they were intended to be carried aloft by observation balloons and not for mounting aboard airplanes. They differ from the standard issue '03 as follows: Special stock (29") and hand guard (5 3/4") made specificially for this model resembling the standard stock, with entire forward portion of stock and hand guard eliminated; upper barrel band and sling swivels omitted; lower band solid (not split) and retained by wood screw from underside; rear sight leaf shortened and altered to open sight with square notch; front sight blade 1/10" wide; 25-shot extension magazine utilized.Very rare:Values - Very Good $1,000 Exc. $2,000"Mind you, these are 1977 values. There's a picture....looks like a typical sporterized '03 with a humungous box magazine.
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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    You gotta get a picture of this rifle on here, so we can see it and fight over what its worth, and whos going to buy it.
    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • Der GebirgsjagerDer Gebirgsjager Member Posts: 1,673 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Come on, guys, really! Savage didn't make 1903 Springfields; but Springfield was a name used by Savage-Stevens, just like Marlin uses Glenfield. This is going to turn out to be a made-as-a-sporter Savage, Springfied trade name, .30-06 like the Model 45 which came with a receiver sight in .30-06 and had a detachable 4 round mag. Bordy has got you all going with the words "Sniper" and "1903".
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If this is a Springfield 1903, which I doubt,from the s/n it would have been made in 1904 for the 30-03 cartridge and Savage would not figure into it.As far as it being the 25 round Air Service or the Pederson models go, the serial number is wrong for both of those also.If it is indeed an 03 Springfield with a peep sight it might be an NRA model made up Springfield Arsenal in the 1930s.We need more information. It's unfair to send the group off on wild goose chases by not supplying a reasonable discription of the gun in question.
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  • XracerXracer Member Posts: 1,990 ✭
    edited November -1
    Granted, the number BORDY gave for his gun (#11523) doesn't match the numbers (857,XXX to 863,XXX) given for the SAS '03s given in Flayderman....But, what the hell....wild goose chases are FUN!Consider it an intellectual challange! Right Capt.?
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