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Winchester model 54

dodge69dodge69 Member Posts: 949 ✭✭
edited December 2016 in Ask the Experts
need to know value and info on 3 digit 270wcf.correct bolt handle swivels and stock.what starting ser# was released to publc and would receiver blue and barrel be different colors?
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  • dodge69dodge69 Member Posts: 949 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Model 54 made 1929, 30-06 with a 24" barrel, lyman aperature sight, also has a lyman alaskan scope in a griffen & Howe mount. Why is the end of the barrel threaded, threads have a knurled cap over them. Just curious if anyone had any idea why this was done.
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  • dodge69dodge69 Member Posts: 949 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester model 54 .270, serial number 34695a. I was wondering the history and maybe the value on it. I Might have to sell it to help out my family, and the only person who would know anything about it was the one who past away and left it to me. Anything would help. Thanks.


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  • dodge69dodge69 Member Posts: 949 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Was the 54 drilled for a scope at any time?
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  • TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,292 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No, but Stith did make a mount that used the factory drilled holes for the receiver sight.
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  • AmbroseAmbrose Member Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The receiver ring may have been d&t on some for a Lyman type target scope. I'll check my Winchester books and get back. But, Trap says, ordinarily no. The bolt handle was not friendly to scopes.
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  • MIKE WISKEYMIKE WISKEY Member Posts: 10,045 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    LIKE AMBROSE SAID THEY WERE D&T ON THE FRONT RING AND THE BARREL FOR UNERTL TYPE BASES.
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  • dodge69dodge69 Member Posts: 949 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I had checked with Bert on the model 70 and found that later models of the 70 were drilled for a scope but I forgot to ask when they started drilling them. I do know you can lose your butt buy buying a gun that was drilled that should not have been. I collect lever guns and know what to look for but I wanted to get a bolt gun for the coyote problem we are having in Central Missouri. They are big and hard to get a shot at. I thought the 54 would be an option but I would think you would have to be a expert to tell if one had a scope that extra holes were not drilled. Most of the 54's I have seen do have scopes.
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  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    dodge69,

    quote:I thought the 54 would be an option...

    I'm curious as to why you thought of an M54 as an option for a bolt action rifle to shoot coyotes?

    There are certainly better rifles made today or in the recent past which would perform better for your use and there would be no need to worry about scope mount holes at all!

    I understand the draw to older, more nostalgic firearms but sometimes you have to give credence to which tool would actually be better.

    Euro Optics has a huge sale on Tikka T3 rifles with models chambered for the .243 Win. which would be a superb coyote rifle with top performance and easy to put a scope on...

    Best.
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  • AmbroseAmbrose Member Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My 54's had all been modified to accept a conventionally mounted scope when I bought them. That is, in addition to d&t, the bolt handles had been forged or replaced to allow the handle to clear the scope. So, of course, that would be easy to see and those rifles are (or should be) priced accordingly, not as prime collectors pieces. The "lose your butt" factor would have been realized before you took possession.
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  • dodge69dodge69 Member Posts: 949 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The reason I have not purchased a more modern firearm is I really do not know much about them and I am 75 and hard headed. I do not like black plastic in my gun case. My son has a 22-250 savage that is a great shooter. My M-1 Carbine does a pretty good job in the area I live in, Central Missouri where most of the shots would be in the 100 or less yards unless you get out in the Missouri River bottom or go up north, then I need a scope.
    I have never owned a Bolt gun I collect Winchester Levers so I just have to do a little more research on bolt guns. Right now I am thinking maybe a model 70 pre 64 Hornet or swift. I think they would do the job for both small and larger varmints.
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  • AmbroseAmbrose Member Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I like your idea of the pre-64 Model 70. I have a half dozen or so. And they are very "old school" which sounds like that would appeal to you. Also, I would suggest you not rule out the .243.

    By the way: I'm 79 and very "hard headed", too.
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  • charliemeyer007charliemeyer007 Member Posts: 6,572 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Model 95 take down built into a 30-40 Krag Ackley Improved. Perhaps with 22 cal sabots. Someday I would like to build one up.

    +1 for less or no plastic same for aluminum.

    I like old 70's.

    22 long rifle is lame for yotes IMHO but I have seen them killed with 22's.
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  • dodge69dodge69 Member Posts: 949 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have seen them killed with 22's and I don't care what they have done, I do no want to see any animal suffer from using to small ammo. We have a breed that is much larger than Normal coyote. We have a lot of people moving into the country that invite them to by leaving garbage out and we just naturally have a lot of them.
    I am pretty stuck on a 70, they are a little proud of them but I think I will be able to get my money back when I give it up.
    Ambrose, is any of yours in a Hornet? I do not reload so I have to stick with ammo I can buy.
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  • 62fuelie62fuelie Member Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One more hard head checking in. I have a pre-'64 70 Varmint in .243. It came D&T with Unertl type scope blocks mounted as well. It is a great shooter, but not something to carry on a long stalk. I'm only 73. If you can find one this would be an excellent choice.
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