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Internal lock required in some states?
bigcitybill
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I am going to list an auction for a no-lock revolver.
Can anyone tell me for certain if there are any states/locations where this gun cannot legally be shipped?
Can anyone tell me for certain if there are any states/locations where this gun cannot legally be shipped?
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You need to indicate in your description, "Be sure that your dealer is willing to accept delivery from a nonlicensee." You will be paid, you will ship the gun to the address on the supplied FFL, you will be done with the transaction.
Neal
EDIT: Actually, Maryland requires that used handguns must be approved by the Maryland Handgun Roster Board, &, if manufactured > 12/31/03, must have a Maryland approved integral locking system & key. And, MD residents get little help from the Maryland State Police.
EDIT2: Beantown is correct, MSP has permitted certain integral locks that they consider acceptable; e.g., a magazine shaped lock that fits in the magazine well, & a bore lock that is a rod. So, no surprise that some dealers charge $100 for a transfer that may require an hour on the phone, & an hour on paperwork.
I am going to list an auction for a no-lock revolver.
Can anyone tell me for certain if there are any states/locations where this gun cannot legally be shipped?
Neal is correct.
So long as the gun is going to an FFL, I doubt there is anywhere where the gun can't legally be SHIPPED. The FFL who receives the gun may not legally be able to transfer it to the BUYER based on local law, but that's not really your problem. Its up to the buyer to make sure he can legally possess the gun he's buying before he buys it.
Edit: Correcting my wrong/misleading answer from before, the state of MD requires that guns manufactured after 2003 sold there have built-in mechanical locks.
I believe that's the only one with this specific legal requirement at this time, and I think I've heard that even there they now have some "workaround" where the dealer can affix an external lock at the time of sale.
There are a number of other states that simply require "a" lock with the sale of certain guns.
The specific requirements vary quite a bit from state to state, as to what types of guns require a lock (handguns, vs high capacity guns, vs all guns), what kinds of sales require the lock (all sales vs retail sales), and what kind of locks are OK (internal locks, external locks, state-approved external locks, lockable containers, etc).
quote:Originally posted by bigcitybill
I am going to list an auction for a no-lock revolver.
Can anyone tell me for certain if there are any states/locations where this gun cannot legally be shipped?
Neal is correct.
To answer the question, California, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania require that sold guns have trigger locks.
MI requires a lock (cable, trigger mount, or other), but not specifically a "internal" lock
quote:Originally posted by bigcitybill
I am going to list an auction for a no-lock revolver.
Can anyone tell me for certain if there are any states/locations where this gun cannot legally be shipped?
Neal is correct.
To answer the question, California, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania require that sold guns have trigger locks.
CA does not require a handgun to have an internal lock. CA does not require that a separate lock must be purchased when buying a handgun. CA requires that a buyer buy a lock OR provide a receipt fewer than 30 days old as recent "proof of purchase" of a CA approved lock. Hmmmm ..... [;)]
Some manufacturers, Ruger if I'm not mistaken, provides a separate lock which happens to be CA approved.
The presence of an internal lock, such as those found on Smith & Wesson, has no bearing on whether the revolver can be imported to CA via FFL. As it happens, the newer Smiths are CA approved and they have a lock, but they're approved for sale in CA after passing the "drop test" and being placed on the roster, not because of the lock. So CA is similar to MA, with a touch of foolishness tossed in for good measure.
I at one time had a bag of about 150 locks - donated them to a local gun store, the gun store included them for free so less beguiling gun owners could comply with the "lock or receipt" part of the law.
However the bottom line, as mentioned, is that the buyer is 100% responsible for ensuringthe revolver can be legally bought in his state.