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owning a full auto

muwapemuwape Member Posts: 45 ✭✭
edited December 2001 in Ask the Experts
Is it legal to own a full auto in ohio if you aren't a class 3 dealer? Or do you just have to go thru a dealer to get one? I have a lot of land and thought a mac 10 or such would be a lot of fun, but don't know the legalities of getting one. I certainly wouldn't want to acquire one illegally.thanks in advance.
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  • nmyers@home.comnmyers@home.com Member Posts: 205 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Check the yellow pages and find a Class III dealer. He will be glad to tell you exactly what is required because you're going to have to use his services anyway. Keep in mind that either your city or county may have an ordinance (or chief LEO) that may prevent your owning one.Neal
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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    Our manhood, or personal worth is determined by what we own?NOT!
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  • ref44ref44 Member Posts: 251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One clarification...acquiring a Class 3 weapon does not require your going through a Class 3 dealer. If the firearm has to be shipped...OK. But, an individual can sell a machine gun to another individual without a Class 3 dealer. Granted, the dealer knows the ropes and has the forms; but you do not have to use (and pay for) his services if you can do it yourself.
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  • nmyers@home.comnmyers@home.com Member Posts: 205 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ref44 makes a good point. The same applies for a C&R (such as an M2 carbine or Reising), which can be sent to you directly from anywhere in the country after BATF approval for the transfer.Neal
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  • cliffdropover1cliffdropover1 Member Posts: 136 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Legal in Ohio, but go through a reputable dealer and he can walk you through the process.
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  • prebanfanprebanfan Member Posts: 75 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Where I am from it's legal to own full auto but you have to pay a fee of about $125.00 a year to own the gun/guns. I don't know the exact price. Kind of like how they screw you on car tax and property tax. It works the same way. You buy the gun, you pay tax on the gun. Then you have to pay a usuage tax every year, so you can keep the gun you already bought and paid taxes for. I highly recommend you go through a class 3 so you can show a clean and clear paper trail. 99.99% of LEO's just look for a reason to hassle you over a full auto, no matter where you live. Even in spread out rural areas, there is always one a##hole who will call and report he hears machine gun fire. I have personally seen this happen. However, as with all guns that have a clean and clear paper trail, if laws are passed to seize all full auto's you will be one of the first to have your gun taken from you. So it's kind of a catch 22. When you get your machine gun,you gotta go to the knob creek machine gun shoot in Kentucky. They even have machine gun rental, along with flame throwers, and sometimes tank driving rentals. They also have semi-auto shoots as well during the meets, but everybody comes to watch the full auto's go at it with each other. A blast!!!!!! Good luck.
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  • 74cuda74cuda Member Posts: 417 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ref44 is correct. If you want to purchase an NFA from someone in your own state, you need to submit a Form 4. You don't go thru a class III but you still have to pay the $200 tax stamp to ATF. When the approval comes back to the owner of the NFA weapon, then he transfers the firearm and the paperwork to you. Quite simple actually. Everyone should try it once.
    "In God We Trust........All Others Go Thru NCIC"
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know this Class III dealer named "Jo-Jo" out on my street corner...ahem.....In all seriousness, be choosey about who you pick for your Class III transfers. The last gun show I went to in Sioux City had a Class III table and Class III ownership is not permitted in Sioux City! The dealer was from Nebraska and he (like many Class III manufacturers and dealers I've met at gun shows) was a cocky b@st@rd. It seems that the "I'm better than you because I can own it and you can't" attitude runs rampant with many of these fellows. I've gotten all the full-auto jollies I've needed since I've been in the military. I compare it to the lack of thrill I get at fireworks displays on the 4th of July. After a few claymore mines and artillery rounds and hand grenades, who cares about things that go boom in the sky?
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  • kaboomkaboom Member Posts: 75 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dano - Any time you take a full auto gun out of your home state even for a short time you have to file ATF form 5320.20 and get approval from ATF. As an alternative you can write a letter to ATF giving a long list of information about your gun and travel plans, and then wait for written approval from ATF. The 2nd option will take longer to be approved. If your travel plan includes any state or city where full autos can't be possessed your application won't be approved.
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