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FFL QUESTION

pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
edited April 2002 in Ask the Experts
What are the current fees associated with getting an FFL-01? Just toying with the idea. Thanks

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  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was just wondering how many guns can you legally buy and sell a year without having an FFL.
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am considering getting my FFL. Are the kits that are out there worth it?
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you possess your own FFL, can you legally purchase a long gun from an individual without logging it into your books? I am looking to purchase one for my own collection and use
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you purchase a gun off gunbroker.com and the seller has an FFL and ships the gun to another state. Since the gun was purchased and paid for in another state, does the receiving FFL Dealer have to collect a state sales tax for the gun being shipped to his state?
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    when shipping a longarm to a ffl do you need a signed and dated copy of license or just the number?
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    TO OBTAIN A FFL , DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE OF BUISNESS OR A STORE{SHOP}? OR CAN YOU JUST DO BUISNESS AT GUN SHOWS AND ON THE WEB? CURIUOS!
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is there a federal regulation that a private party must send a copy of their valid photo ID (drivers license) with a mailed firearm when shipping the gun to an out of state FFL? This is during the completion of a Gunbroker auction/sale ? If there is, could you please identify the correct regulation number (or copy it to this thread) so I can be in complete compliance?

    Thanks...
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    sold gun on G B and shiped to purchaser"s dealer. got a call from dealer saying i did not include my ffl # told them i am not a dealer , but sent gun to them for proper transfer. they said guns must ship from dealer to dealer. are they correct? if so i have sent many guns to dealers and never a problem. but do i have a problem now?
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    a freind comes to wisconsin every year from california
    for deer season and flies with his gun.
    This year airline charged him $70.00 1 way for an extra pc. of luggage.
    Rather than pay an another $70.00 on return, he took the bolt and magazine with him and I shipped the rifle back to him
    Since he is the lawful owner, is it legal for me to return to him in this manner

    Thanks
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am trying to sell a RRA LAR-15 right now. I have a guy willing to pay the price but he is across the state line. I am in Utah and he is in Idaho. Do I need to go through an FFL to sell this to him over the state line? Or only if I ship it? If I drive the 3 hours up to his city and sell it to him face to face is that illegal?

    TIA
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This may or may not be the right place to ask this..so moderators please move this if I'm incorrect. I'm looking into getting a FFL C&R but I've been searching all over the web trying to find a clear answer. My question is...if I were to obtain an FFL C&R...what weapons am I allowed to obtain with this license...and more importantly what weapons am I NOT allowed to obtain. I'm an avid collector of WWII firearms, but I'd also like to get a little bit more modern full auto firearms as well. What stance does the government have on C&R holders obtaining full autos? Can you not obtain ANY full auto? Are you limited to full autos past the 50yr mark? Or can you obtain any full auto?

    Thanks in advance!
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Scenario: A person over time has acquired and owns 50 guns. That person then applies for and receives a FFL. I know that he/she must keep the personal guns separate from the "FFL guns". But what if the person sells some of the 50 guns he owned prior to obtaining the FFL? Does he have to log them into his book and then sell them? Or does he simply sell them without doing the paperwork?
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just recently got my FFL, and was wondering the best way to find a supplier(s) [ for firearms ] that is reliable and trustworthy...any thoughts ? thanks in advance for your help.
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know that you have to have a copy of an out of state FFL before you can ship a gun to him. But how do I prove this to a friend who just knows that anybody can ship to an FFL? Which is the regulation that spells it out that the FFL must be in hand before you ship? I couldn't find the particular regulation or law on the ATF Website. Or is this just under the heading of common sense, as in so you know you are shipping to an actual FFL? Instead of just a voice on the telephone claiming to be an FFL. I'm serious, this question just came up for the first time as I always knew you had to have the FFLin hand and it's frustrating not to be able to sight the actual regulation. Thanks for the help.
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
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    I ordered a firearm and am having it sent to a FFL dealer in the town I live in. However,the seller, FAC, does not have the firearm in stock and may not for a month yet. By that time I may be living in another state. Can the FFL dealer still transfer the firearm to me if I am living in a different state when he receives it (assuming I go there and pick it up?) Thanks.
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Okay, help me out guys (and gals)!

    Here is the deal. I like to collect WWII firearms. (M1 Garands, Carbines, Mausers, Arisakas etc.) I live in PA in the good old
    US of A!
    I would like to get a Thompson and a Grease gun, vintage full auto for my collection. I KNOW THAT THEY ARE EXPENSIVE, but that is not an issue. I already have a PA concealed carry permit (not that it matters, just tells you i am totally clean) I am not interested in reselling, just buying. What federal permits will i need to apply for in order to legally obtain these? I do want them 100% working not semi auto conversions!

    Thanks for your help!
    PJ
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    CAN A PERSON GET AN FFL FOR A HOMEBASE BUSINESS? EVERYONE KEEPS
    TELLING ME I HAVE TO HAVE A STORE FRONT? I AM IN THE PROCESS OF
    STARTING A SMALL AMMO SHOP IN MY GARAGE. I HAVE APPLIED FOR A RETAIL
    SALES LICENSE'S AND OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE'S ALSO. THERE ARE NO ZONING
    LAWS IN MY STATE OR COUNTY WHICH PREVENT ME FROM DOING THIS, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF THE ATF WOULD GRANT ME AN FFL? DOES ANYBODY KNOW.THANKS!!
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If I sell a rifle. I have to send it to a FFL holder. If the FFL doesnt accept from an individual I will have to go thru a dealer. What kind of paperwork do I have to have? Do I need a ink signed copy of their FFL or can a faxed copy do? Do I even need paperwork if I go thru a ffl?


    Thanks
    dgac
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    if I buy a receiver made after 1892 what does an FFL do with my info. Could I be rejected for some reason due to past history or area where I live. Just asking cause I never bought a receiver made after 1899.
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can someone tell me how long it usually takes to recieve you ffl once you send it in?
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have asked this question before but didn't get much of a reply. I have just sent in my FFL application to the ATF. I was wondering about how long it takes for them to process it and issue the license. I know since 9/11 it will probably take longer but if someone could just give me a time frame it took to get theirs i would appeciate it. Thanks.
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    1)Can a non-FFL holding person ship a pistol to a gunsmith?

    2)Can it be shipped instate, interstate?

    3)If a non-FFL holding person is allowed to ship a gun/pistol to a gunsmith how is the Non-FFL person allowed to ship pistols? USPS, UPS, Fedex? Must they use the services of a FFL holder?

    Thanks in advance.
    Dean
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If I have several guns, hand and long, shipped to my FFL guy, other than the $25 transfer fee per firearm, and I go there once when he has them all, I'm assuming he'll charge me only for one single background check fee? Is this correct?
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I recently posted on here about problems with my EAA Baikal. Well, I e-mailed them, and they said I could send it to them and they would fix it and send it back, with the only cost to me the one way shipping. My question is, do I have to take it to a FFL holder to ship it and have it shipped back to? Or is this only for buying/selling. I would think I still have to take it to an FFL holder, but if I dont have to, I wont. Thanks!

    shoey
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    HI guys,
    several days ago i posted a question inquiring about a c&r license. I received several good suggestions. I'm thinking about going ahead and getting a dealers license. i want to be able to buy and sell guns on Gunbroker without having to run everything through a local pawn shop. Can i run a business strictly on the internet or do i actually need a shop for people to come into?
    Thanks,
    Sherwin
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    guy I work with has his ffl and was willing to receive a shotgun I am thinking of buying. He says $10 and tax, I know the $10 is a good deal but since when do they have to collect sales tax. the gun is comming from iowa to wva, is he correct?
  • k.stanonikk.stanonik Member Posts: 2,109 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes you can get a FFL with out a store front, you must comply with your local and state laws as well as federal. contact your local BATF branch for the paper work and they will answer all of your questions on how to proceed.
  • CS8161CS8161 Member Posts: 13,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I may be mistaken, but I had heard that ATF was slowly and methodically doing away with all FFL license holders that did not have a storefront? Has anyone else heard this? They will not grant you a license to deal from one's home or residence. I guess the best way to answer this question is to call ATF. The only problem there is that if you ask ten different ATF agents the same question, you will get ten different answers!

    Chris8161
    Admit nothing, deny everything, demand proof!
  • HerschelHerschel Member Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Chris, The info I have received from BATF is exactly as stated by K. Stanonik. I believe the elimination of residence located ffl's is due to their problem with zoning. BATF requires that ffl businesses be in compliance with local laws. If your residence is in a zoned jurisdiction and the the zone is residential, that makes it in violation to conduct a business from the residence. I suppose a zoning waiver could be obtained but have had no experience with that.
  • azgunnut2@yahoo.comazgunnut2@yahoo.com Member Posts: 305 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes you can get an ffl , if you meet the requirements , no criminal record , ect....as far as the zoning stuff , your local govn. can help and the atf will not issue a ffl if you are in a residence type
    area unless you get a zoning vairance waiver from the locals (first),
    we had to do all this with our last location before we relocated out to the "counrty" , also be aware of all the atf rules and stipulations
    that come with a ffl ( if it is "in" your residence - the entire
    house is subject to searhes and stuff) type of things....If you do not
    plan to have a regular "business" , dont bother with the ffl ......
    You can ask questions to the atf , anything thats foogy , ask them to put it in writing and or give regs for reference and get a name of who told you what , will save you time and trouble later....we have had a ffl for twenty-three (23) years and grew up around one with NO
    problems....just follow the silly rules.....Good Luck !!!!!!!!!!!
  • ref44ref44 Member Posts: 251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have had FFL out of my home about as long as azgunnut2. Have had numerous renewals with no problems. Have had two audits that were very through, but cordial and professional.

    When the zoning issue was added, I went to my city engineer, described my situation, and asked if I would be considered a business. He would not decide, but gave me a copy of the ordinance.
    With no signs, no special parking, and no high volume of employees and/or customers coming and going, I decided I did not violate the ordinance and so indicated on my renewal application.

    Many will tell you an FFL is "not worth the hassle". These are the people who put off their income tax until April 14th and don't get their VISA payments in on time. If you want the FFL, the hassle is not an issue.
  • sfettysfetty Member Posts: 349 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am an FFL dealer out of my home and have done so for almost 4 years. I have a business license and there are no state or zoning laws in my area that would restrict me from selling firearms from my home. I pay sales tax and follow ALL reqirements set forth by the BATF and have not experienced any problems. The ATF agent came to my home when I first applied for my license and went over the laws and regulations that I must follow and casually checked to make sure that my home was relatively secure. He answered all of my questions, politely said goodbye and within a few weeks, I had my FFL license. Keep good orderly records, obey the laws governing firearms sales whether you agree with them or not, pay the appropriate sales tax and you shouldn't have any problems as long as your locale doesn't prohibit your home business.
  • ref44ref44 Member Posts: 251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    sfetty:pls send e-mail ref441 at mindspring.com...have specific questions about audit.
  • pat1pat1 Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR ALL THE INPUT. THE INFO. HAS BEEN
    VERY HELPFUL........THANKS ALL!!!......PAT1
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