Tumbling loaded rounds

cpermd

Hate to keep correcting folks but,
There is NO effect on powder in a tumbler.
This is another urban and rural legend.
Tumble a round for a WEEK and you,a chemist,ballistician,and microscopist will not tell it from a new round except it will be really pretty.
Please show up here in AR at the lab if you disagree.
cpermd

leeblackman

I don't think the reason they say not to tumble live rounds is because they are affraid of powder mixing with the media. ITS BECAUSE YOU RISK CAUSING AN EXPLOSION.......

And if you want to risk it thats your business, but please don't advise others to do so....

Bad, Bad..... If you were my puppy I'd rub your nose in it cpermd

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cpermd

Lee,don't let your ignorance show so much.At least you appear trainable.
Have you ever seen an ammunition plant and the loaded rounds they tumble before packaging?
Have you ever heard even a rumor of a loaded round going off from tumbling?
cpermd

edharold

1. Modern ammunition does not explode!
2. There is nothing in a normal tumbler to detonate a primer!

badboybob

Ok I believe you. But I'll never tumble loaded rounds. If the brass was cleaned before loading why even think if tumbling loaded rounds?

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Iconoclast

cpermd, I do not have scientific evidence to refute your comment, but vaguely remember an article in an NRA publication some time back saying it was not good. Further, I am aware of an incident many years ago when a rifle action failed in which the only logical cause was the ammo being tumbled for a long time before being shot. Finally, it probably is an excess of caution on my part, but the simple idea of tumbling ammo loadede with spitzer bullets - especially FMJ or Match HPs - strikes me as being potentially dangerous. It may in fact be urban legend, but, frankly, cleaning the brass before loading is the only time I will tumble it. Painless precaution to take, fallacious or not. I don't walk under ladders, either.

S&W Man

It is best to have your brass cleaned before loading, BUT if the necessity arises, you can tumble loaded rounds. Most handgun ammo could not set itself off and would tumble fine. Rifle ammo with a pointed bullet might, but the way a tumbler works it is mighty unlikely, unless you are using a rotary tumbler large enough for two rounds to be end to end vertically.

I have had occasion to tumble loaded rounds and never had a problem. Only way I could see for tumbling to effect powder is if you had a evry loose crimp and some king of liquid in the media. Dry media would not be able to enter the case past a crimp or the primer seat.

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JIM STARK

Now just "suppose" a loaded round went off in a running tumbler...with the lid on....The projectile in this situation would become the brass case....NOT THE BULLET..... Somebody's law of fizzziks says the bullet would remain mostly stationary...It's heavier... and the brass would become the projectile...If the bowl of your tumbler is so thin that a brass case would penetrate it, You need to buy a new tumbler...
If you're wondering where all of my knowledge comes from...A good many years ago while operating a "turkey Shoot" for a Jaycee Chapter...A fool threw a handful of loaded .38's in the campfire...When detonation occurred, the brass came popping out of the fire and the lead bullets remained in the fire... Which is where a number of us proposed to roast the fool.... but he ran too fast...

leeblackman

Look, I may not be a genius, but you have to be just the opposite to even consider risking it. Sure it may just cause a tumbler lid to pop off, and lalala. OR it may be scientifically proven by every physicist in the world that its ok, but I don't let my dog chew on shotgun shells, and I won't tumble live ammo.

And back to the point, Please don't tell people its ok to do so. Just remember, because you said this if someone blows up their tumbler and decides to take you to civil court you may be liable for buying them a new tumbler, or worse.

If the factory does it, I'm sure its in a special tumbler in a controlled enviroment.



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leeblackman

quote:
Lee,don't let your ignorance show so much.At least you appear trainable.
Have you ever seen an ammunition plant and the loaded rounds they tumble before packaging?
Have you ever heard even a rumor of a loaded round going off from tumbling?
cpermd




Cpermd, you've been on this group for longer than I have, I've been chatting with you for a while, and respect your posting alot. But your calling me ignorant, when your the one risking life and limb over a $10 box of shells...

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cpermd

Please look up "ignorant"in a dictionary.
It means you have not been taught about something.
When you said you would rub my nose in piss I thought that was a very mild response,you stupid F&*K.
cpermd

cpermd

And is there some reason you feel the need to post on every message even though you give incorrect answers half the time and just post to see your name somewhere.
When I post it is accurate.
cpermd

Mr. Lobo

Come on ladies...Get along...Everyone here is just trying to help...Put your ego's to bed!

Jim

joeaf1911a1

Are we talking about "actual" tumblers or "vibrating tumblers" . I have been using a home made "actual" tumbler since 1946. Much parts replacement. I realize in tumbling live ammo, nothing SHOULD happen,
something possibly COULD happen, it MIGHT happen, it won't hurt the
POWDER burning rate, it WILL hurt the burning rate ETC.ETC.... BUT
dont do it in my cellar!!!! Lee, were you on "Hacks B.B."??....
Old Dog Face.