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Smith & Wesson M & P AR-15

tkindvalltkindvall Member Posts: 19 ✭✭
edited November 2010 in Ask the Experts
Just wanted to see if anyone had any suggestions about these guns are they a quality shooting rifle. Can get into one for under $800, does that seem like a decent price. Thanks
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  • armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You are not stating if and what any options it has. I take it this is not a gas piston gun. There are a lot of different variations.
    Does it have iron sights?? If not that could add another $100 easy just for sights but with out knowing more specifics it's hard to give you a recommendation. They are as good as any other major players.
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  • BHAVINBHAVIN Member Posts: 3,490 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just put some Accy's on an M&P M4 style flat top. I was not impressed at all. They were much better when Stag made them for S&W. The handguards were not even close to mil spec and were very cheap. It was hard to add on new mil spec handguards. Not a bad price and I have not heard of any not functioning well but I think they could make them better.
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  • quickmajikquickmajik Member Posts: 15,576 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    standard model-$775-825 normal price
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=160063656
    optics ready model $750-825 normal
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=160124352
    A model $875-975 Normal
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=160136031
    X model $975-1100 normal
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=160138913
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  • tkindvalltkindvall Member Posts: 19 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Armilite it is a gas operated system, has no sights but that is my preference what other variations do you need to know about or is there something in particular I should be looking for? Thanks

    quote:Originally posted by armilite1015
    You are not stating if and what any options it has. I take it this is not a gas piston gun. There are a lot of different variations.
    Does it have iron sights?? If not that could add another $100 easy just for sights but with out knowing more specifics it's hard to give you a recommendation. They are as good as any other major players.
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  • quickmajikquickmajik Member Posts: 15,576 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well in my opinion unless you are going to add folding front and rear sights you need a rifle with a front sight tower. red dots run out of juice, scopes can break, Irons never need batteries...
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  • armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:tkindvall
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    Posted - 03/11/2010 : 7:32:51 PM Show Profile Email Poster Reply with Quote

    Armilite it is a gas operated system, has no sights but that is my preference what other variations do you need to know about or is there something in particular I should be looking for? Thanks

    quote:Originally posted by armilite1015

    You are not stating if and what any options it has. I take it this is not a gas piston gun. There are a lot of different variations.
    Does it have iron sights?? If not that could add another $100 easy just for sights but with out knowing more specifics it's hard to give you a recommendation. They are as good as any other major players.




    If one is not that familiar with AR-15's there are a lot of different little nuances that can decide which one to buy. Different barrel lengths, buttstock variations, hand guard variations even hand guard diameters etc. Since you want one with no iron sights and your mind is made up on that point fine. Is the Smith the one you want to have? Then I would say that around $800 is an average price. I just don't hurry into buying any thing just because it's there. I do as much research on some thing as I can before I buy.
    For you it might be a good deal for others not so much. If your happy with it then by all means buy it. The only person you need to make happy is yourself. Good luck
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  • 511pe511pe Member Posts: 258 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They shoot fine. FCG pin holes seem to be deburred like an automotive part on the one I shot. The one that I shot, the pins would rotate on the receiver somewhat. Looks & feels right as an AR should without all the gimmicks and snag clutter most pricier ones have on. Keep in mind when buying a gun buy the gun then worry about the accessories later. I'd love a Rock River Arms if I had the $ but most ARs seem to be made with the basic specs only differing in FCG pin sizes and buffer tube diameter. If I were to be motivated I could build one from a basic receiver within 1-2.5 hours and shoot as well as any. Keep in mind this style design originally didn't have a gas piston or fat pistol grips. The basic idea was to have a controllable light weapon that is accurate to reduce battle fatigue. The riffle's basic grip has 1 finger bump as to pull the gun into your shoulder while holding the fore grip horizontally sort of like pulling back a bow string on a bow&arrow. The barrel was originally designed to free float free of excessive weight or attachments to conflict the barrels harmonics unlike modern gas piston setups. Gas pistons do have reliability advantages over the gas impingement systems of old. However fundamentally free floating barrels with out vibration conflict are thought to be more accurate. It depends on what you're going to use it for. I have to admit I love multi-tools but I don't like excessive gear on the front to weigh down the front of the gun so much to have to use a vertical fore grip to attempt shooting while standing up. Wounder if the bayonet would be considered the can opener on this AR multi-tool?
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  • 511pe511pe Member Posts: 258 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You could get an upper and lower different off brand & put them together for less than $800 that's if your not to picky. As said before they follow basic specs.
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  • tkindvalltkindvall Member Posts: 19 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thought I would let anyone know that is interested finally got my rifle all set up put a Cabelas 4-12X40 scope on my ar and I quickly got it down to half inch groups. No problems whatsoever, if you can get deal like I did take. One thing I didn't mention that was included in my price was ten, twenty round clips and five, thirty round clips will never need to buy another clip. Only thing on the gun I'm going to change is the collapsible stock, I'm putting a staionary stock on it as I'll be using it for Varmints.
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  • armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well congrats you make the right choice and your happy that's all that counts.
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