Savage 24V???

Redtail

I have a Savage 24V in 30-30 over 20ga.I have very bad eyesight and need a scope to achieve any kind of acuracy beyond a few yards.
I have mounted a Simmons "Pro-Diamond"shotgun scope useing Weaver "low" rings.
With the rifle zeroed at 75 yds. the shotgun pattern centers about a foot low at 25yds.
With the rifle zeroed at 25yds the rifle hits about 3-4 inches high at 75yds.I have tried every factory 30-30 load I could lay my hands on and found Federal 170gr match up best.
I know the bullet crosses the line of sight twice in it's trajectory and the sight height above the center of the bore will cause a variance.
My question to the experts>Will taller scope rings help bring the two barrels closer to zero at their respective effective ranges?

The scope base prohibits the use of see-through rings

rufe-snow

Personally I would be quite satisfied with the 75yd rifle zero, and believe that would be the best you could do. Doubtful that the higher scope rings will make any difference? As they would have no effect on the fixed ballistics of both loads, that could alter point of impact.

p3skyking

The "shotgun" scope thing makes me smile. Savage and Stevens both said not to shoot the shotgun with a scope attached.
If you insist, zero the rifle and ballpark the shotgun.

I question the use of a firearm by anyone with "very bad eyesight" unless it's correctable enough to drive.

Redtail

This is a shotgun scope with over 6" eye relief and the eye piece sits well forward of the hammer.

The Bi-focals make it hard to focus on two sights and a target of much distance,hence the scope.

I an a 74 year old farmer that intends to use this firearm as an anti-vermin tool while patroling the farm via ATV.
And you can pull your pants down and let your butt smile for all I care.

Joes Custom Guns

I use a Scope on every Gun that I Hunt with.Rifle Shotgun and Pistol.
Never did on My Trap Shotguns,but havr though about trying it.
I say if it helps you hit Your Target where that you want to hit, Then use it.I am just a little older then You, but that is not the reason that I use a Scope.The Scope helps Me See the Target better,
so that I hit it where that I want.
As for Your SAVAGE problem. Try seting You Rifle Dead on at 50-Yds.
then trying Your Shotygun at 20-Yds. to see where it is. Your Rifle and Shotgun will not both be on at 50-Yds. so put Your Rifle on and
adjust your aim for the Shotgun.
I hope that You are able to Farm and Shoot Varmits for another 25yrs.
Good Luck.
PS.
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quote:Originally posted by Redtail
This is a shotgun scope with over 6" eye relief and the eye piece sits well forward of the hammer.

The Bi-focals make it hard to focus on two sights and a target of much distance,hence the scope.

I an a 74 year old farmer that intends to use this firearm as an anti-vermin tool while patroling the farm via ATV.
And you can pull your pants down and let your butt smile for all I care.

charliemeyer007

I understand your vision issue. Regulation of double rifles is tricky. I help do it once.

Changing the scope height will do something, not sure it would be better or worse.

Because it's a single shot, reloads could be made with better flying bullets (not sure at 100 yards it would make a lot of difference in trajectory) and perhaps slower velocity to shoot higher.

Maybe a short section of shotgun rib with a fiber optic rod sight mounted on top of the scope for shot gun wing or running targets.

Tennessee elevation? Use the upper or lower part of the diamond as the aiming points for rifle/shot gun instead of the center part.

You can play with the trajectories of the 30-30 using different variables such as scope height, velocity and the ballistic coefficient of various bullets.

http://www.hornady.com/ballistics-resource/ballistics-calculator

The standard for shot gun pattering is 40 yards, the center of the larger circle might be closer to your point of aim.

Ray B

The regulation- where the bullets/shot travels from each barrel would remain the same with only a change in sighting arrangements. If you seek to have them go to a similar point of aim you would need to vary the loads to each barrel til two were found to give the desired results. The height of the sight would have little to do with it.

perry shooter

Hello I think you have presented your problem correctly I have a Valmet with 3 different Rifle under Shotgun barrel combinations 12Ga, over 243 12Ga.over 30-06 and 12Ga. over 9.3/74R. The Valmet has a way with taper blocks to adjust so both points of impact are the same. On the 24V you have correctly stated that the flight of the projectile crosses the line of sight twice the arc of the 22 will be flater then the arc of the shot gun pellets so a taller scope rings will give you greater distance between where the two crossing points are apart.. My math may be faulty but I think the lower to the barrel you can get the scope the better if this is Rifle over shoygun .Really hard to say for sure because the two bores are different in relationship to the sight line no matter how high or low the scope is mounted and oppsite.

jaegermister

I believe your scope is 1x to 5x with a reticle posts coming to a center circle?
Use the lower verticle post where it meets the circle as your shotgun aiming point.
You can try different power setting to change the amount of elevation the lower post will be pointing to. 5x will give the lowest degree of elevation, 1 x will give the greatest and perhaps be close to the amount you need.
The faster the bullet you shoot from the 30 30 the higher it will shoot. This is due to the upper barrel shooting away from the attached lower shotgun barrel. The higher the mounts you use the greater the distance between the cross over trajectory to the line of aim.. I would take advantage of the the new pointed 30 30 lever action bullets from hornady.