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byf 41 P08 value
22hipower
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I've owned a few Lugers but only know enough about them to get in to trouble. Read with interest the earlier post on a byf 42 today and then came across a byf 41. I don't think it will be for sale but the owner would like to know the value. I took pictures but have not been able to get imageshack to cooperate; maybe when I try again later. Anyway, appears to be 95% or better original blue. Straw color where I understand it is supposed to be. All numbers in the places I know to look match. Two magazines with the same serial numbers in excellent condition. byf 41 marked holster in excellent condition but without the gun's SN as far as I could see. I'll try to post pictures again later and could e mail them to anyone who is interested. Assuming my description is accurate would appreciate value estimates. Thanks much.
Edit: Ok, had to switch photo hosting sites to get pix but here are some. All I had with me was cell phone so they're not great. Only "straw" color noted is as shown in first photo; "strip" under toggle. Numbered small parts aren't shown but all of them I could see matched the basic SN. Grips, as shown in pictures, are excellent but I didn't take them off to see if they are numbered. Magazines appear in almost new condition. As I said, I'm not much of a luger guy but this is the nicest package of gun, matching mags, and apparently correct holster that I've seen. I assumed value should be in the $3k range but wondered if it might be more. Thanks Babun for the luger site reference; great site.
Edit 2: No takedown tool or cleaning kit. I was talking to a third party rather than the owner when I looked at the gun. I asked about capture papers and he didn't know but the actual owner may. I'll ask about papers, and the tool/cleaning kit, and will look the holster over more closely to see if there are any other markings. Thanks for all the very helpful comments.
Edit: Ok, had to switch photo hosting sites to get pix but here are some. All I had with me was cell phone so they're not great. Only "straw" color noted is as shown in first photo; "strip" under toggle. Numbered small parts aren't shown but all of them I could see matched the basic SN. Grips, as shown in pictures, are excellent but I didn't take them off to see if they are numbered. Magazines appear in almost new condition. As I said, I'm not much of a luger guy but this is the nicest package of gun, matching mags, and apparently correct holster that I've seen. I assumed value should be in the $3k range but wondered if it might be more. Thanks Babun for the luger site reference; great site.
Edit 2: No takedown tool or cleaning kit. I was talking to a third party rather than the owner when I looked at the gun. I asked about capture papers and he didn't know but the actual owner may. I'll ask about papers, and the tool/cleaning kit, and will look the holster over more closely to see if there are any other markings. Thanks for all the very helpful comments.
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If the visible numbers match, it's likely that the small ones inside match also. Most critical to the value is the barrel: the number on the bottom must match the frame, & the bore must be good.
Nice looking holster. A collector will check the stitching with a UV light to see if it has been repaired.
It looks like a nice collectible gun. Value increases greatly with every percentage point above 95%. But, the byf variation is relatively common, as many were brought back from WW2 by GI's. Assuming the photos you posted are best you will be able to get, I would expect the rig to bring $2,000-2,500.
Neal
I am really interested in the holster as it does not seem to have the three letter makers code on it but rather a 1/41 which might be a unit designation. Is there anywhere on the leather where you see a P08 mark? Or better yet a three letter maker code?
Prior to 1941 the Germans used numerical codes, before transitioning to the better known letter codes. This might explain the markings on the holster?