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Shotgun question

itchy300itchy300 Member Posts: 122 ✭✭
edited March 2013 in Ask the Experts
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I have a Hopkins & Allen lever action drop block single shot 12 ga.
ser.# 1417. This weapon has one single ring screw to remove the barrel.lower front of reciever block. Age? Value? good condition.
Thanks for any help.

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  • itchy300itchy300 Member Posts: 122 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Last year was my first to go pheasant hunting and I loved it. I used my pump shotgun and noticed one problem. I am left handed and the crossbolt safty is completly backward to me it proved to be a pain to reach under when you are trying to get a quick shot. So my question is who makes a semi auto shotgun with a left hand friendly safety? I know about the mossberg 930 (thumb safety) and some of the more expensive guns have reversible crossbolts. Any thoughts or suggestions. Cant be over $600.
    Thanks,
    Craig
  • itchy300itchy300 Member Posts: 122 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Central Arms Co. 16 gauge, double barrel. Can anyone tell me anything about this gun? I've never heard of Central Arms before and can't find any info on it. It still has some browning color to it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Here's what you see on the side of the gun.
    6016 Central Arms Co.
    St Loius. U.S.A.
    Pat. APR.20-1915

    Respectfully,
    BigDawg5.56
  • itchy300itchy300 Member Posts: 122 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    A neighbor wants to sell an O/U 12 gauge made buy Nikko Arms Co Ltd. made in Neckerman West Germany.I can't find it in any of my books and I thought Nikko's were all made in Japan.It is in nice condition except for what looks like a couple blood spots that were not wiped off before putting away.It has 28" barrels fixed chokes F&M and an engraved receiver.Does anyone know the approximate age,quality and ballpark value? I realize that without pictures it is just a wild guess but I'm thinking it would made a nice field gun. Thanks
  • itchy300itchy300 Member Posts: 122 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I recently bought my first shotgun (Remington 870 Express Magnum with a 26" Barrel). I was talking to the guy at the store about hunting deer with this gun & he informed me that I would need to buy a new choke to shoot slugs as the choke i have now is for clay pigeons. My question is what sort of choke would I need to buy? I also heard something about changing the barrel too, but am not positive? Any information would be appreciated. Thank you.
  • itchy300itchy300 Member Posts: 122 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm looking at getting an O/U shotgun and wanted to get a couple of opinions about Ithaca, Winchester (96 or 101), Ruger, and any less expensive "great guns for the money" types.
  • itchy300itchy300 Member Posts: 122 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The other night on the Modern Marvels TV program they had a segment showing an Ithaca model 37 pump emptying it's tube as fast as the shooter could pump it. The trigger was held back in the fire position the whole time. Is this a LEO only feature? Do other pumps, like the Mossberg, operate the same way?

    Thanks guys,
  • itchy300itchy300 Member Posts: 122 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey everyone, if this isn't the place to put this sorry, i wasn't sure where to post it, but i wanted some opinions, does anyone use a 20 gauge for waterfowl, anything, ducks, geese, etc, i was just wondering if it had enough power to take down one of these animals, what lenth barrel would be suitable? Would a 24 inch barrel be okay?, please give me your opinions and im sorry if this is posted in the wrong area...

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  • itchy300itchy300 Member Posts: 122 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would like to buy a 12 Gauge semi auto shotgun. I'm not sure of the model or manufacturer, but I'm looking for a relatively affordable gun with the pistol grips, a folding stock (a stock like the AR-15 has would be nice), and a detachable magazine.

    Any suggestions?
  • itchy300itchy300 Member Posts: 122 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a question, I currently own a Remington 870 Marine Magnum with 18" barrel, factory mag. extension (8rds I believe), aftermarket folding stock made by butler creek (holds 3 shells), front pistol grip, rear pistol grip, 6 shot side saddle, halo sites, sling, heat shroud, surefire combat mounted to magazine, gun is over 26 inches in total length, and as I said the barrel is 18" and is factory from Remington. Am I violating any laws I reside in FL, a local gun dealer told me I was with the addition of the folding stock. I want to keep my gun legal, so if I need to remove something I will. Thanks very much. ALso on a side note does adding a cylinder feeding magazine to a pump action shotgun make it illegal.

    I was told that as long as a shotgun was a pump any alterations could be made to it as long as it wasn't to the reciever. But semi auto shotguns could be considered destructive devices so they would be illegal to alter. Is this correct?
  • itchy300itchy300 Member Posts: 122 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have been doing ALOT of reading on shotguns/shells and saw that there are flares made for use in a shotgun. but every search I have done has came up dry. Hoping the all knowing gods of GB can point me in the right direction.
  • itchy300itchy300 Member Posts: 122 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Although there have been several shotgun topics here I am still unsure of which gun I want to purchase. I am looking for a 12 gauge, preferably semi-auto which will shoot 2 3/4- 3 and 3 1/2 shells. I would like to find one gun to use for turkey hunting, duck hunting, goose hunting, and the occasional clay pigeon shoot with the family. Money is not a huge issue. I want something reliable that will last, and that I won't be afraid to take out in the rain or snow. I had an old 1100 that I liked, but it only shot 2 3/4. I recently shot a 935 and was not too impressed with it. I couldn't get it to cycle the 2 3/4. If anyone has any suggestions I would sure appreciate it.
  • itchy300itchy300 Member Posts: 122 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a H&R Topper 88 12ga. in 3" full. I was wanting to know if I can shoot magnum turkey loads in this gun safely. Thanks for the help! earndawg
  • toad67toad67 Member Posts: 13,008 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    All of the guns you mention are good choices. However recently SKB/Ithica went out of business again and even though they are great guns some people shy away from them. The same goes for the Winchesters and Rugers. It seems that some guns are more or less popular in certain geographical areas.
    IMO stick with a Browning Citori, they are a good gun and are easy to resell if you decide that you don't want it. If you are getting one with screw in chokes you might want to consider getting one that uses the same chokes as other shotguns you own, if any. It's nice not to have 30 separate chokes laying around.

    Todd
  • llamallama Member Posts: 2,637 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Inexpensive but good add the Mossberg Silver Reserve to your list, as well as the Traditions by Fausti. CZ is also very good for the $
  • gearheaddadgearheaddad Member Posts: 15,091 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Price can depend a lot on what gauge you are wanting.
    I feel that a Browning Superposed Belgium made 12 gauge is highly undervalued right now. A quality used one can be bought for less than a new or used 12 ga. Browning Citori in many cases. And, in my opinion it is a superior gun to the Citori!
    Just be sure to avoid a "salt gun" if you start looking at Superposed's.
  • itchy300itchy300 Member Posts: 122 ✭✭
    edited November -1
  • llamallama Member Posts: 2,637 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by itchy300
    Salt gun?



    Browning needed/wanted to dry a bunch of stock blank wood quickly a while back... so they packed the lumber in salt which did a great job of sucking moisture out of it quickly.

    Unfortunately, salt residue stayed with and in the wood.... so as soon as any moisture was encountered (humid day, foggy, etc) it would turn to salt water. Know what salt water does to metal? Yeah... instant rust factories.

    Now, this isn't saying that a salt gun should be avoided at all cost... just be aware that they are out there and they have potential issues, etc.
  • JunkballerJunkballer Member Posts: 9,294 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bought a used SKB a few years back before they shut the doors and love it, I don't worry, it should be good for at least a couple of lifetimes. That said, I'd be proud to own any of those mentioned. I highly recommend you leave those that just extract alone, if it don't eject the emptys, WALK [;)]

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  • 20gabob20gabob Member Posts: 232 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I guess that i am in the minority with most of you fella's. I am the proud owner of a set of American Arms double barrel o/u and can honestly say i wouldn't want much else at my old age. They have so many rounds thru them that i wouldn't want to guess the number. All of mine are Silver 1's and do not have ejectors just extractors. They are all bored IC/Mod with 3" chambers. I hunt, shoot skeet, sporting clays and any other games with them. Shot ranges from #9 to # 4 that goes thru them depending on the application. They shoot great patterns with almost all loads and the extractors just lift the empties up where i can pull them out and save them for the next reloads. My opinion is if you want a shotgun to last for a long time and shoot everything with go to Tristar(the new company that has them) and take a long hard look. You might like what you see. And you can get them in 12/20/28/and 410 ga. Reasonable too.











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  • 20gabob20gabob Member Posts: 232 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Oh, bye the way, I've had Win 101's, SKB, Beretta, Ruger, Rem 3200, and most of the rest but i always found that they were no better than my set of American Arms.
  • drl50drl50 Member Posts: 2,496
    edited November -1
    I concur that The Browning Superposed is a good way to get a great gun at a great price if you get a 12 gauge gun. I picked one up a few years ago and it has become my favorite wing shooter. The 20 gauge guns are almost double the 12 gauge price all else being equal. The "salt guns" were mostly found in years of manufacture between 1967 and 1972. Tell tale evidence is eroded engraving where the wood meets the metal. Many had stocks replaced by the factory (to the original owners only), but the damage to the metal remained. Not all Superposed made in those years had salted stocks. I believe the same holds true for the Safari rifles of that period.
  • rsnyder55rsnyder55 Member Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have Brownings, Berettas, and Winchester 101's and depending on what you are going to use it for can help narrow it down. Weight, balance, firing mechanism.

    Also, many of the O/U shotguns have cast off stocks which may or not fit you. I'm left handed and shoot lefthanded so it really can make a difference to me.

    I guess the best bet would be to shoulder quite a few, fire some if possible, and choose.
  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Beretta hard to go wrong.
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