Model 4

HoosierBoy

My grandpa just gave me a Model 4 .22 rolling block rifle. I presume it is a Remington, but I can not be sure as there is rust where company name shoud be, but "Model 4" is clearly visable. My questions are these:1. Were there any other companies other than Remington that made the model 4?2. What is a fair price to restore this gun?3. Any history information on this gun? Here's what I know. It has a octagonal barrel, has not been fired in over 50 years, barrel is rusted, the stock broken at the neck, but has been taped, its a rolling and has great personal value.My grandpa is getting up there in age and the memory is staring to fade. But he does remember hunting rabbits, mice, snakes and other some game with it. He said he and his brothers would "hunt" every Thanksgiving for the elusive Thanksgiving turkey with it, but that it was more of a joke than serious hunting. It was mostly an excuse to be in the woods during Thanksgiving with his brothers (10 of them) who were scatted all over the world via wars, jobs etc. Other than that, he can not remember much about it.I presume even if in mint condition, the rifle can not be worth more than $200 or $300, but I would like to restore it and give it back to him any. Thoughts? Thanks in advance!HoosierBoy

HoosierBoy

Just traded my Wingmaster Magnum 12ga.(1985/ 98%)
for a Remington # 4 (70%)and a Marlin mod.99M1(95%)
1.What would I use to clean the wood on the #4 to
remove the years of neglect without harming the
original finish?It's not beat up, just built up
with grunge.(metal parts are fine
and it shoots great[^])Serial#318464.Year?Value?
2.The 99M1 looks like new except for a small rub mark
on the bottom of the foregrip.Serial#69314773.
Year of manufacture? Value?
3.Did I screw up[?][?]

IT'S WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEMSELVES THAT MAKES THEM AFRAID.

HoosierBoy

Hi all,

My grandpa and I found this site on a web search engine. We are convinced that the people here know what there talking about. Our question is . we have a stamped Remington Model 4, SR# J295576 ...it is in GREAT COND. What does the "J" mean? We heard about the military and scout versions and are unaware witch one we have. Any info would be greatly appreciated. We also have a original box of ammo, the is in original print "Western cartridges 32 short rim fire" and it goes with-out saying there old.
All comments are appreciated.

How do I send pics??

Thank you
Grandps and Bill

Der Gebirgsjager

The Rem. Mod. 4 was produced from 1890 to 1933. No, nobody else produced this exact rifle; although other companies made similar rifles that appear similar enough to fool you until inspected closely. Your situation is not uncommon to gunsmiths, and actually we refer to them as "Grandpa guns", where sentimental value overides monetary value and perhaps common sense. I'm not making fun of you--I've got an "Uncle gun" that was the mutual property of two uncles during the Great Depression and with which they contributed rabbits to the family dinner table; often the only meat they had for weeks. It's an octagon-barrelled Westernfield pump made by Stevens and catalog-ordered for $13. Rusty with a homemade forestock. Anyway, to get down to your case, you'll probably find that your estimate of what the rifle is worth in pristine condition is about what it will take to have it restored by a professional gunsmith. You'll want to replace the buttstock; and if the exterior of the gun is badly pitted the only way to remove the pits is by filing and drawfiling, a time consuming and labor-intensive job. And, of course, you are paying for the gunsmith's time. The exterior of your rifle can very likely be made to look like new, but the bore is another matter. If it is badly pitted and you want to restore it you will have to have the bore drilled out and lined with a new barrel liner. This will add to the cost of the job. Most competent gunsmiths that engage in rebluing should be able to refinish the exterior of the rifle satisfactorily. If you wish to reline the bore you will need a specialist. Best wishes on your project.