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winchester model 12

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    JmebJmeb Member Posts: 56 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a 1929 Winchester Model 12, 16 guage, 2 3/4. I believe it to be a field grade with 2 barrel assemblies. Barrel 1 is a 22 inch improved cylinder with a solid rib. Barrel 2 is a 28 inch with loop sight. The gun is in fair to good condition and was wondering what it might be worth.

    I would have attached pics if I could figure out how to do it.
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    JmebJmeb Member Posts: 56 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have 2 questions.
    First,Im just wondering how I would go about changing a left-hand safe back to the original right-hand safe.

    And 2, what is the correct way to measure the barrel length of a Model 12.

    Thanks
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    JmebJmeb Member Posts: 56 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a model 12 winchester,serial number is 1114092.its a 12 ga,with a 2 3/4 chamber with a cutts comp on the barrel.could anyone tell me how old it is..thanks
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    JmebJmeb Member Posts: 56 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester Model 12 that I am trying to put a plug into for duck hunting. I can not figure out how to get the magazine open to put the plug in. Is there a trick to this? Wlll this require tools? Thank you in advance for the help.
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    JmebJmeb Member Posts: 56 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have a 20 gauge model 12 that will not lock. Have replaced the barrel chamber ring, ejector to no effect. Extractor looks good and weapon will eject, however not stay locked. Does anybody have any advice on this matter. Greatly appreciated!!
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    JmebJmeb Member Posts: 56 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester Model 12 that was passed down to me. I would never sell but i have always been curious about the rarity and the value. The seriel # on the reciever is 932059. The number on the barrel and forend is 933059. I also have another barrel and forend. the # on it is 933059. both barrels are 12 ga 2 3/4. One barrel is marked FULL. Any info would be greatly appreciated
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    JmebJmeb Member Posts: 56 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    [?]I aguired [2]model2 from my grandfather would like some imfromation on them 1 is 12ga superspeed@superX 30" barrel mattel rim proof steel barrel sn#1193976 what is it wotrh @ what year was it made. any imfo please [:)]
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    JmebJmeb Member Posts: 56 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just inherited a Winchester Model 12 20 gauge shotgun that belonged to my grandfather. The serial # is 388906. Any idea when it was manufactured?
    Thanks
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    JmebJmeb Member Posts: 56 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I need to get some info on the "Y series"
    models..I believe they were only produced the last couple of years before
    Winchester sold out to US Repeating arms--late 50s and pre 64.. I think all Y
    series Mod 12s had a ventilated rib..but do not know what gauges were available
    for sure..Do know they had a Model 12 12 gauge TRAP gun..Would like to know if
    they had field guns--barrel lentghs and chokes..also did they make a 16 gauge..I
    like the 28 gauge so much now I am compliplating a 12 or 16 gauge, but must be a
    Y series..If available they will undoubtably be hard to find and no doubt out of
    my price range, but I am curious.

    Thanks

    Rockton
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    JmebJmeb Member Posts: 56 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester model 12, 12 gauge 26" ws1 that was made in 1963 that I use for grouse hunting. It shoots and points like a dream, however within the last year or so sometimes it is extremely hard to push the pump back forward once fired to load the second round. I have taken the receiver apart multiple times to clean and lube everything inside, I even took it to a local gunsmith, he honed some of the sliding parts inside, he said because of their design this was the nature of the model 12. It doesn't do this every time I shoot just at random. Does anyone know of a special lube or something I could use. I also found a receiver from a Y model 12 for sale, would my barrel and stock interchange with it? I know the Y models were casted instead of machined, does this effect the smoothness of the action? Any help appreciated. Thanks
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    JmebJmeb Member Posts: 56 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a older model 12 i picked up about 20 years ago and cant find much on it as far as its value. I was manufactured in the US with matching serial number of 1660872. It has a 30 inch barrel with factory ventalated rib with a 2 3/4 inch chamber and full choke. I also has a peep sight install behind the bolt that appears to have been after market. If anyone has any information on this firearm, its history and value please help me out. I have seen one very simular in Cabella's gun library with a price take of about $1800, only notable difference was the serial number which was 157xxxx with a 3 inch chamber.

    The wood on my gun is in excellent condition and the metal in very good condition with a fair amount of bluing wear on the receiver.
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    JmebJmeb Member Posts: 56 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am having problems with a model 12 winchester. When assembled, the cartridge cutoff does not block the magazine when the bolt is closed and you cannot load shells as they pop back out. What am I doing wrong?
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    JmebJmeb Member Posts: 56 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have just received a Winchester model 1912 12 guage full choke, serial number 769** with a 30" barrel. Can anyone give me a clue about the date of manufacture? Gun is not for sale, but was left to me by my great-grandfather. Thanks. Earl.
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    JmebJmeb Member Posts: 56 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can a winchester model 12 12 gauge 2 3/4" chamber be modified ( have chamber lenghtened) to shoot 3" shells
    The reason i ask is i own a model 12 roit gun (watts commemorative edition[:D]) which is in like new condition. I would like to purchase a extra barrel/ mag,forearm which i see a lot of on ebay. I would like to have a spare duck gun realize the new set up will have to be fitted .What i really wanted was a 12 heavy duck
    thanks rp
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    Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello Jamie...

    You did not mention what gauge you Model 12 is, and that will make a difference in the potential value. The "kick" pad (most commonly referred to as a "recoil" pad) is most likely not original... Winchester installed a black hard rubber butt plate during the time when your gun was made. Unless your gun is marked "TRAP", "SKEET", or "PIGEON", it is a standard Field grade gun, and is most likely worth $400 or less.

    Bert H.

    Real Men use a SINGLE-SHOT!
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    only winchestersonly winchesters Member Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello Jmeb: Since your gun was made in early 1923, it's definately not a "Skeet" grade gun, since they didn't come out until 1934, (Ref. Riffle) During this time frame the recoil pads used by Winchester, were the Solid Red pad marked Winchester with a 1922 patent date, along with Hawkins vented pad, Jostom pads, D-W No-A, and Goodrich Air cushion pad. A gun that's 80 plus years old, is hard to find with the original pad, since they get hard, take a set, and fall apart with age. So unless your gun has one of the above, it most likely isn't original. Now with a "plain barrel" it is most likely not a "Black diamond" grade either. Black diamonds would be on each side of the wrist area of the butt stock just behind the Receiver, and they are checkered.
    The fact that the gun is "really tight" is interesting. But when you remove the barrel assy from the receiver, the adjusting sleeve around the barrel , has notches on it. When holding the barrel assy. look at about the 5 o'clock postion, you will see the adjusting sleeve lock. Look closely and see what notch it is on. If it hasn't been used much and or abused, it should be on the first or second notch. This design feature allows one to "tighten" the barrel assy. as wear takes place.
    Since the barrel assy. is off look at the face of the breech bolt. There is a round ring, just in front of it, this is the barrel chamber ring. It should be "in the white" no blue color, just like the breech bolt. If it's gun blue in color, this means the gun was reblued at one time.

    So with all that being said, if the gun is original, bluing, recoil pad, a Nickle Steel gun with a Modified choke, (not many around or left) could have a price range $350-$650, depending on the exact condition, LOP of the stock, more than usual figure in the grain of the stock. Let us know exactly what you have. Side note: "Factory Recoil pads" were about a $5.00 option when your gun was made, so there is a possibilty if your pad is original, this was "Special ordered" Regards Dave
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