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winchester 1906

LazyHLazyH Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
edited January 2002 in Ask the Experts
First, I am new to this site and think itsgreat! Second, I am impressed by the knowledgeof most of the members.My question: my son owns a win. mod.1906 ser#171xx in .22 short only, that is in good condition,with the exception of the bore that is in poor shape. Can you tell me when it was made and approx. value? will having the barrel relined detract from its value? thanks in advance.
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  • LazyHLazyH Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've come into possession of a VG Winchester 1906 Take-Down with the serial number 796XXX. This number appears higher than referenced in any of the texts I have come across. Can anyone tell me the approximate year of manufacture? Thank you.
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  • LazyHLazyH Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was wondering the value of one of these in fairly good condition. I believe it is the expert model but im not sure. It has a pistol grip and a different looking forearm but this one also has a peep site which im not sure came factory. Can anyone help me with how much it is worth? thanks Lance
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  • LazyHLazyH Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What has to be done to get the magazine ring installed to the dovetail on the Winchester 1906 barrel. Does it have to be shaped? The new magazine rings appear to be too big for the dovetail. Any suggestions?
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  • LazyHLazyH Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    3 questions for a friend.1)Rifle is stamped .22short means no LR right even though the mag tube cut out will take longs?2)Inside the lower reciever there is a screw that holds a very small washer type plate that is round on one side and square on the other. What is this for?3)Aprox worth? It has lots of light surface rust no pits seems it was never blued or finished, dinged up stock, scrubbed on barrel for an hour and can start to see the rifling. Action and everything else is good (normal wear).Thanks drawn
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  • LazyHLazyH Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a 1906 expert. There is a serial number on the lower tang but not on the receiver. Also there is no proofmark on the receiver where there would usually be next to the barrel mark.There are no grinding/filing marks. The receiver looks almost 95% original bluing not refinished. There are some small markings on the receiver next to the mag. tube. Any ideas? Was it a replacement receiver? Serial number is 580xxx on the tang.
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  • LazyHLazyH Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester model 1906. I tried to search the serial # and can not find anything. The web sight I found says that it is out of their database date range. The serial # is 771XXX. Does anyone have any info on this?
    Thanks,
    Jim
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Built in 1910. Condition is the most important component of the valuation of collectable fire arms, thus poor condition or modifications will decrease the value to collectors. This particular model is seldom encounted in better than 90% condition and a rifle in "good" condition with a poor barrel might still bring $250 or more. If you want to retain value don't line the barrel, just buy another .22. If you want to keep shooting this one, don't worry about value. You can't really do both.
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  • talontalon Member Posts: 150 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You said that the bore is in poor shape. That could mean that the groves are loaded with lead. If so, it can be cleaned. Often, what looks to be a smooth, or shot-out bore, is nothing more than a leaded barrel. Ditto on what He Dog said about value.
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  • buddybbuddyb Member Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I sold one about a year ago in the condition you describe for 475.The bore just needed a good cleaning with Sweets 7.62 bore cleaner and the rifling reappeared.
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  • wundudneewundudnee Member Posts: 6,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Your 1906 was made in 1906. They were chambered for 22 shorts only for the years 06, 07, and o8. In 1908 they changed the receiver to the model 3 receiver with the bolt lock cuts showing. The mod. 3 rec. ran from approximately 70,000-103,00 serial #. In late 1908 they changed the shell carrier to accept shorts, longs and long rifles interchangeably.The 1906 is basically a scaled down 1890 with all the same parts except for the shorter barrell and a gumwood stock. 1906 new $10.50-1890 new 17.50.Get the bore cleaned up good and I think you will be surprised how good it will shoot.Keep it original if you can and enjoy it, go buy a 10-22 ruger to play with.Ned Schwings Winchester,s Slide Action 22,sModels 1906 and 1890 is an excellent reference on these fun old guns.Sorry for the longwinded response, but this is my passion.
    "If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?" Will Rogers
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  • XracerXracer Member Posts: 1,990 ✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like your '06 was a "gallery gun".Winchester Model 1890s and 06s in .22 short were used in shooting galleries at fairs, carnivals, amusement parks, etc. all over the U.S. I saw a bunch of 'em at a shooting gallery on the Boardwalk in Atlantic City as late as the 1960's.Your bore probably isn't leaded....it's most likely just plain shot out. These guns frequently had many hundreds of thousands of rounds thru them.If you like the way the gun handles, Rossi made a copy of it a few years ago that took shorts, longs, and Long Rifles. Maybe you can find one on the auction site.
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  • groundhog devastationgroundhog devastation Member Posts: 4,495
    edited November -1
    Wundudnee, Give us a place where we can buy the Ned Swings book. Thanks
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    http://www.krause.com/static/firearms.htm
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  • groundhog devastationgroundhog devastation Member Posts: 4,495
    edited November -1
    HeDog, Do you have the book? If so I'd like to have you look up something. Model 90 22short octagon barrel nickelplated serial#740074. 85% some wear in plating where you hold the slide. E-mail me @ charliemill@earthlink.net I only have one of these and it was my grandfathers. Just curious as to value as I took it instead of a pocketwatch.. I like guns, my brother likes watches. I favor "BANG" over "ticktock". thanks Charlie
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    sorry groundhog hunter, I don't have it, I keep Krause publications bookmarked so it was quick and easy to post it. If I had had it, I probably would not have gotten the date of manufacture wrong.
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  • talontalon Member Posts: 150 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Groundhog, the serial #, according to Madis, places your rifle's manufacturing date somewhere in 1930. The value is somewhere above $550, but you would have to speak with someone like member "wundudnee" to get a more accurate price. As this is a real specialist's area, I'm sure an expert would have several questions to ask concerning configuration and condition.
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