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glock 21 mags

klou812@chartermi.netklou812@chartermi.net Member Posts: 17 ✭✭
edited February 2002 in Ask the Experts
I have some 13 rnd glock mags.they say (restricted le/govt only) can i sell these or im i stuck with them.klou812@chartermi.net
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  • boeboeboeboe Member Posts: 3,331
    edited November -1
    Unless you are either:1. A law enforcement officer2. In the military using them for military purposes, or3. An FFL holderIt is a felony for you to possess them or sell them.
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  • klou812@chartermi.netklou812@chartermi.net Member Posts: 17 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just retired from law enforcement and have some leftover. sold my 21 but just found more mags, buyer does not want any more.everyone on the dept. has all they want.know what?thanks,klou812@chartermi.net
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  • ref44ref44 Member Posts: 251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sell them to an FFL dealer. They can be bought new for $12-$15 new; so they will not bring much.
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  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is NOT a felony to have or sell LEO magazines as civilians, there is not a law against this, the only crime is if the manufacturer sells them directly to civilian.
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  • klou812@chartermi.netklou812@chartermi.net Member Posts: 17 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    well i have two very different replies and still not sure what to do. if a dealer cant sell the to me i assume he would also be in violation to buy them from me. this explains why no one at a gun show would touch them.maybe i will buy another glock 21.thanks all.
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  • ref44ref44 Member Posts: 251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    lee:Are you sure about that?
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  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Look I guess it depends where you are.. Whether or not the local ATF office decides they want to waist tax payers money to enforce a law that would probably cost more than the fine, when they have more important things to pursue. Its called "The spirit of the law." We learned about it in constitutional law class. In otherwords rather than enforce the "Letter of the Law" and put 99% of the population in prision, officers just use the law to keep order and justice. For instance, according to Texas law you can be arrested for every offense, including class C misdemeanors (the smallest) accept for speeding (because they have a contract with other states). In other words the most that would likely happen is that your magazines would be confinscated and you would be told not to do it again.I don't know a single liscenced dealer that 100% understands and knows all the firearms laws, so its safer for them to just aviod the danger.Basically the choice is up to the you whether or not you want to risk it, but in all honesty your more at risk of breaking the law just driving down the road.
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  • RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060 ✭
    edited November -1
    Please send them to me-I'll examine them carefully and let you know...
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  • boeboeboeboe Member Posts: 3,331
    edited November -1
    This is from Section 922 regarding hi-cap mags.(w)(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for a person to transfer or possess a large capacity ammunition feeding device. (2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the possession or transfer of any large capacity ammunition feeding device otherwise lawfully possessed on or before the date of the enactment of this subsection. (3) This subsection shall not apply to - (A) the manufacture for, transfer to, or possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States or a State or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State, or a transfer to or possession by a law enforcement officer employed by such an entity for purposes of law enforcement (whether on or off duty); (B) the transfer to a licensee under title I of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 for purposes of establishing and maintaining an on-site physical protection system and security organization required by Federal law, or possession by an employee or contractor of such licensee on-site for such purposes or off-site for purposes of licensee-authorized training or transportation of nuclear materials; (C) the possession, by an individual who is retired from service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving ammunition, of a large capacity ammunition feeding device transferred to the individual by the agency upon such retirement; or (D) the manufacture, transfer, or possession of any large capacity ammunition feeding device by a licensed manufacturer or licensed importer for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Secretary.That's the federal law, with the only exclusions. If they are marked LEO, they were made after the law went into affect.[This message has been edited by boeboe (edited 02-14-2002).]
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  • ADfreeADfree Member Posts: 188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "(C) the possession, by an individual who is retired fromservice with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwiseprohibited from receiving ammunition, of a large capacityammunition feeding device transferred to the individual by theagency upon such retirement"If he got the mags from where he was working and retired from he can keep 'em. (I am not a lawyer though; I have too much self-respect.)
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  • boeboeboeboe Member Posts: 3,331
    edited November -1
    ADfree, I would say that is correct, but I'm no lawyer either. However, it is against the law for civilians to possess large capacity feeding devices (hi-cap mags) unless the were made prior to the ban, or as described in the above.That was copied directly from the federal statute, which went into effect September, 1994. I haven't heard of anything repealing it. If anyone can find something, I'd sure be interested, but I do believe it would be major news in the gun industry if that was repealed.
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