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Mauser Broom handle

mosin manmosin man Member Posts: 131 ✭✭
edited February 2002 in Ask the Experts
Need info on Mauser Broomhandle pistol. Pistol is a late 1930 comercial model but has 12 groove grips and the red 9. From all Ive seen these pistols were 30 cal. Mauser but the man says it is a 9mm. The over all length is 11.75 inches, has the Mauser banner on the side of the frame, has late model saftey, adjustable rear sites from 50 to 1000, top of barrel is stamped Waffenfabrik Mauser Oberndorf ?/N, serial # 899751, and what looks like two chinese symbols stamped on the right side of the barrel. When I fired it the brass cases are swelled, The fireing pin is almost punching through the primer and there is some movement in the barrel forwards and backwords, from what I have read this is what is called a late 1930 commercial model and was only chambered in 7.63 Mauser, all the #s match. Any info.
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  • AntiqueDrAntiqueDr Member Posts: 691 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You have to be really, really careful with Broom's. So many copies were made in the Far East that it is getting rare to find a real one. Many of the recent imports are either all or part Chinese manufacture, and they weren't shy about copying the original banner and markings. Sounds like this is what you've got.Show the gun in person to a Broom collector and he'll be able to point out the difference in markings, etc.
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The 9 on the grips signifies 9mm but the grips could be a replacement. It shouldnt be difficult to tell if it is a 9mm or a 7.63. The bullets are greatly different in diameter. Dont fire it until you're sure.Make sure the heavy firing pin rebound spring is in good condition or the gun will double, break parts and be dangerous.
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  • RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060 ✭
    edited November -1
    My source says it's an early Model 1930-the units designated as "late" didn't start until Ser.# 90032.Should be.30 Mauser.Do heed the suggestion about springs-it sounds like your firing-pin spring is worn out.It's safest to replace all springs as well as the bolt stop if you're going to fire the gun.Where are the cases swelling? If it's the web (rear) area,again,springs-the bolt recoil spring (and probably the mainspring,too) could be weak,allowing the bolt to come out of battery too early.Also,there were some units contracted by Turkey-there will be a crest on the barrel extension,just in back of the sight,and several markings in Farsi-this looks a bit like Chinese in some cases.
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  • RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060 ✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry,that's Ser. # 900302...
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  • RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060 ✭
    edited November -1
    Oh,also-it's easy to identify caliber-the .30 Mauser is a bottleneck cartridge and is 25mm long.The 9mm parabellum is straight-walled,and 19mm long-you'll be able to tell as soon as you try to chamber the wrong caliber.
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  • 11echo11echo Member Posts: 1,007 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The red 9 broomhandles are factory re-work to change the pistol from the .30 cal (7.63) to the 9mm ...hence the 9 with red paint in the grips to visually indicate the change. This was however a GERMAN modification between the wars. So if you have a barrel with Chinese markings, you may have a mauser that has been pieced together and re-bored to 9mm. And maybe the tolerances are alittle sloppy. Any way if it was still a .30 cal you would be able to chamber the 9mm. I suspect and over sized chamber do to eith errosion or sloppy machining in the re-bore job. Hope this info helps! Good Luck! ...Mark
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  • mosin manmosin man Member Posts: 131 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the info. I was going to buy the gun but it looks like it will be more trouble to fix it than it will be worth. I would have been in the gun for $664.00 and with all the expense for repairs I do not think I would ever come out on it.
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  • muhakelmuhakel Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Any chinese markings on any part of a Mauser means that it was modified about the time of the Boxer rebellion the chinese did a lot of modifications with hand tools and the machine work was very poor. The red 9 was an indicator of the 9mm version but was never "Officially" done ouside of Germany. I did a lot of research when I got a 7.63 BOLO about 10 years ago. The chinese also used a very corosive type of primer and did not believe in cleaning guns at all so some look like they were were cleaned with acid
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  • RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060 ✭
    edited November -1
    Actually the "Red Nine" was a WW1 German army contract for 150,000 C-96s chambered in 9mm parabellum.And yep,the Chinese copies were (are) of very poor quality.If you want a good C-96 for not a whole lot of money,check out the different auction sites in the "collectible" category.I recently found a very nice one for $640.00-not a matching number collectible,and refinished,but an outstanding shooter nevertheless.If you're looking for a collector piece,you'll pay anywhere from $650.00(poor shape)to a couple grand or more.
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