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semi-shotgun vs pump

laisterlaister Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
edited May 2002 in Ask the Experts
what are the advantages and disadvantages of purchasing either a
semi-auto or pump shotgun? if i do choose to buy a semi-auto....most likely it would be a charles daly....any opinions??
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  • raskilraskil Member Posts: 250 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It depends on your use...With a pump, the operation is manual which takes more time to get off a follow up shot and you have to remember to work the action. That being said, a quality, non-binding, smooth action like a Remington 870 Wingmaster can be cycled very fast and is very reliable. The sound of a pump action being worked is also a great deturant (sp) to any burgler. A semi-auto cycles faster and there is less felt recoil due to the gas pressure being used to cycle. Many skeet, trap, and sporting clay shooters like the semi-auto for faster follow-up, and because semi-autos usually weight more, the gun makes the shooter follow through(swing)smoother. No opinion on the CD but would recommend a Rem. 1100 or Beretta 390 or 391.
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  • MPinkstonMPinkston Member Posts: 799 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I totally prefer the semi-auto to a pump. Two reasons actually, the first is simple, I learned with an semi-auto so I didn't get much practice with a pump. Secondly, and more importantly, when holding a shotgun to your shoulder it needs to be fairly tight else it will kick the snot out of ya. While holding a shotgun close, I tend to pull back gently with both hands equally. This results in me openning the breech and disabling the gun. I'm sure if I practiced pushing with my left hand and pulling with my right, all would work out well. But since I do not own a pump but do own 5 semi-autos, I'll stick with what I know.

    aguncollector@yahoo.com
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  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Charles Daily has proven their weapons to be as good as they say they were. KBI inc. Imports them and warrants them against defects. the biggest plus for the CD semi shotgun is the gas port self adjust Its self to shoot two and three quarter inch shells to three and a half inch magnums. So far for me it has worked flawless. The prices on all Charles Daily products are very reasonable. AS to choose a pump or semi auto would have to be your preference. Hope this helps.


    Good Luck.



    Rugster
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  • ATFATF Member Posts: 11,683 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mpinkston,if a pump shotgun is cocked pulling back on the pump action will not disable the weapon.Only firing or pressing the release will open the action.

    ATF
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  • Old hickoryOld hickory Member Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There are at least four advantages to a pump over an auto: >1 pumps are usually 3/4 of a pound lighter >2 pumps have a simpler mechanism and are slightly more reliable especially with reloads and that goes double for sloppy reloads (which no one on this site ever makes!)>3pumps usually sell for less money when comparing equal quality >4 Winchester Model 12's are pumps they are the best shotgun ever made! >5 It's fun to rack the slide on a pump and I imagine that it"s scary to be a crook and hear that sound! I've owned Remington 1100's and Browning A-5's and those autos are actually pretty good to bee honest! I got a triple on pheasants in 1973 here in Illinois when we had birds with a skeet 1100 - hey I'm startin to ramble!!
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  • MPinkstonMPinkston Member Posts: 799 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The one's I have tried to shoot whould not fire because I had begun to eject the live shell by pulling back with my left hand. I'll admit it been a few years but the person standing to my right could see the live round peeking out.

    aguncollector@yahoo.com
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  • gravediggergravedigger Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just wanted to add that Guns & Ammo tested both semi and pump Charles Daly's in the Jan. issue. The semi had problems ejecting Winchester AA light target loads. Worked fine with everything else, though. The pump functioned flawlessly. If you go with a pump, look hard at a Remington 870 Wingmaster. Hard to beat.

    -Marcus

    ****The gun manufacturers STOLE all my money!!!****
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  • firing pinfiring pin Member Posts: 144 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The only problem I see is if you ever wanted to use bean bags the auto won't cycle.
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    MPinkston
    If the slide releases before the shell is fired, the bolt lock is defective.
    Some model pumps will release the slide as soon as the shell is fired, while others require you to release the rear pressure before they will cycle. Both of these types are normal (depending on make and model) but releasing before firing is not.
    Most clay shooters I know prefer a O/U with, their 2nd choice being a Auto-loader (not counting those who are being paid to shoot a particular brand)
    Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.
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  • laisterlaister Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    thanks for the advice thus far.....how about the charles daly
    semi-auto compared to the mossberg maverick?
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  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    We have debated this at length before. I still prefer an older pump without a sear. For me they are faster & easier than an auto.
    On skeet doubles I can take the second shot faster with my pump.
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