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Winchester M1 Carbine Value

almetcalfalmetcalf Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
edited April 2013 in Ask the Experts
Have a friend that has a Winchester M1 Carbine. Wondering what it is worth. Apparently the NRA was selling these way back when after the war. This is all Winchester, everything stamped with W. Serial number 654**** places it late 44 - Jan. 45. Here are some pics. Also, does anybody know what that tool is in the last picture. He said it came with it and there is another one that is brass he is looking for.

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  • almetcalfalmetcalf Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Father-in-law just showed me a rifle he bought from a magizine ad years ago. he never fired it, just cleaned it up and wrapped up and put away. had a difficult time even finding it to show it to me. the only thing wrong with it is the ears that protect the front sight have a bit of wear to them.
    curious about the value of this rifle. also is there a way to figure out when it as built?
    thanks
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  • gandj armsgandj arms Member Posts: 93 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    hi; that is not an m-1; it is an m-1 CARBINE; when you say m-1 most people think of an 30-06 garand rifle; condition looks very nice; in this area would bring in excess of 1000.00; the tool is the bolt take down for a carbine
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  • almetcalfalmetcalf Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gandj arms
    hi; that is not an m-1; it is an m-1 CARBINE; when you say m-1 most people think of an 30-06 garand rifle; condition looks very nice; in this area would bring in excess of 1000.00; the tool is the bolt take down for a carbine


    Yep, don't know why I left that off. Duly noted and corrected.
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  • thorhammerthorhammer Member Posts: 990 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Winchester carbine was the 2nd most common carbine made at 828,000

    with Inland first at 2.6 million made.

    The carbine you have pictured went thru an arsenal rebuild after the war

    it is not an original built carbine, adjustable sights replaced the flip

    sight, the bayonet lug was not original,but does have a correct round

    bolt according to it's serial number. the stock looks like it's finish

    was redone....light sanded and only the heavy blemishes remain...

    sorry my opinion. The sling is Viet-Nam era worth around $10

    The collector value has diminished and would be in the value of 800-

    1000. Carbines have been gaining in value lately and completed

    auctions here would see true value.

    good luck,

    Thor
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  • almetcalfalmetcalf Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by thorhammer
    The Winchester carbine was the 2nd most common carbine made at 828,000

    with Inland first at 2.6 million made.

    The carbine you have pictured went thru an arsenal rebuild after the war

    it is not an original built carbine, adjustable sights replaced the flip

    sight, the bayonet lug was not original,but does have a correct round

    bolt according to it's serial number. the stock looks like it's finish

    was redone....light sanded and only the heavy blemishes remain...


    Hmm, one site I looked at said these did have the bayonet lug that year from the factory and the sights as well. See here: http://bavarianm1carbines.com/partsbparts.html But the stock does look sanded.
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  • Emmett DunhamEmmett Dunham Member Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Your carbine has the correct sight on it if it has a shield with a letter H stamped in it. The markings you don't show is the one on the band, the trigger housing and a good look at the front sight. It looks like you could have an all original 6.5 Winchester. There should be a W stamped in the sling well of the stock and a closer look at the stock will also confirm if it is Winchester. The barrel is correct with the right proof mark, the mark should be C on the barrel band. If the rifle is a original Winchester that is untouched it is worth some money but people have been correcting these rifles for a long time. You need to get some real good pictures of the marks or a list of the parts markings right down to the trigger and hammer and put them back up. If you watch the auctions on here for mix master Winchester carbines is between 800-1200, yours if original is going to go past 1200 by a few clicks. I have been working on a 6.5 for a few months and it looks like you have a lot of correct parts and if original there are a lot of collectors licking their lips for this one.

    I think you have a very nice rifle there and you need to have someone that knows carbines authenticate your rifle, it looks real good! If the man that owns the rifle has the paper work from NRA on it is also a big plus when selling it.


    Emmett

    Edit: The bolt on this rifle could be round or flat marked W, if it is round it would be a plus for pricing this rifle. The stock does not look sanded, the cross cannon on it looks good. The screw going through the lug at the back of the receiver looks like it has an x marked on it and is correct.
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Better photos are needed. It could be the lighting, but the wood looks sanded to me. The stock may have been mutilated when someone widened the sling slot to accommodate the aftermarket sling.

    The Director of Civilian Marksmanship sold them, not the NRA. They were shipped from US Army arsenals, without a sling, mag, bolt tool, or any other accessory.

    Craig Riesch has written a US Carbine book that would help your friend identify all parts.

    I think it would sell for around $2,000.

    Neal
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  • almetcalfalmetcalf Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, the band does have the C on it and the rear sight does have the shield with the H. And there is a W on the stock.

    I'll have to take it apart later to check trigger housing. As far as the screw through lug on back of receiver I'm not sure what you mean there.

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  • cwo4commcwo4comm Member Posts: 32 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Way back when was about 1963, I purchased one at that time and it was a huge $35.00 from the NRA.
    regards
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  • SnigleySnigley Member Posts: 134 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bought mine from them in 1962 and $35 included 1000 rounds of ammo (of which I still have about 900). Unfortunately mine was an arsenal rework, and doesn't have as many original Winchester parts.
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  • almetcalfalmetcalf Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Snigley
    I bought mine from them in 1962 and $35 included 1000 rounds of ammo (of which I still have about 900). Unfortunately mine was an arsenal rework, and doesn't have as many original Winchester parts.
    Yes, this is certainly a find. Seems to be straight from Winchester, late 44 or early 45. But even the rebuilds are going for quite a bit these days.
    Want to sell that ammo[:D]
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