Need help on swede mauser

REBJr

I picked up what the guy called a 6.5 mauser at flea market yesterday.
No caliber markings or much anything else I can identify.
here goes:
sporter stock, stock does not touch barrell
holding in lap, muzzle to left- markings on hex where barrel screws into rcvr- PO then 1898 then torre annunzia (wierd mark like circle on a stick) and another a next I assume is serno vu7995
had bent bolt load from top magazine/trigger housing with what looks like where a magazing loads up in nut very small, like 22 or pistol cart. ( mag missing) small mag release is inside trigger guard
metal butt plate. bolt had no markings. leaf rear sight to 20
Any help appreciated- Ralph

Nothing very, very good or very, very bad lasts for very, very long.

HappyNanoq

Hello REBJr

I believe a sweede mauser-rifle in 6.5 is a 6.5*55 caliber.
It would sure help if there was a way to post a picture. =o)

Another possibility is that it's a weapon for practise purposes - a gun that resembles the original soldiers rifle, but in a .22 caliber possibly to save lead for bullets and gunpowder because of the smaller load.

I've had one type of Enfield I believe, that was made like that. In .22LR, for the cadets to practise with - learn the basic shooting as well as walking a march.

Could you make a mold of the chamber or otherwise find out what the caliber is? that would help out a lot.

If there's no way of measuring - here's an idea i've used before with great acuracy. =o)
I'd take a cleaning-plug - you know, one of those cotton-like plugs that you sometimes run through the barrel to clean out remaining oil.
Place that plug where the "threads" begin and one drip after another of a burning candle - the liquid wax.
It can be pushed out easily - if you remember to lubricate the chamber though, just lightly.
Then you'd have a mold from the cartridge..
Offcourse be absolutely sure that all of the wax is cleaned out afterwards - you might want to go shooting with it =o)


I hope you will find your answers - afterall such old guns are always fun, and even better if they have a story to back them up.


Regards
Peter E Jeppesen
Greenland.

PS : You might wanna check out this sweedish page !
http://hem.passagen.se/dadkri/Kbk98.htm
The page says somewhere, that some mausers were converted to accept smaller ammo, usually .22Short.

Edited by - HappyNanoq on 06/02/2002 13:19:06

allen griggs

It isn't a Swede Mauser, because it doesn't say "torre annunzio" on the Swedes. Plus the Swede does not have the magazine release inside the trigger guard. Italy made the Mannlicher Carcano in 6.5 and I bet that is what you have. Go over to gunboards.com and go to Italian Firearms section. Those maniacs can tell you the name of the Italian carpenter who sawed the stock blank.

"Not as deep as a well, or as wide as a church door, but it is enough."

Edited by - allen griggs on 06/02/2002 13:33:47

Edited by - allen griggs on 06/02/2002 14:40:06

win37

Swedes were made by three companies. Between the bolt and the hand guard it will be stamped either
Oberndorf, Husquvarna, Carl Gustav.

Happynanoq - sir, the link you have is for the Polish web site.

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Edited by - win37 on 06/02/2002 15:09:55

Mobuck

I agree with griggs. Sounds like a carcona to me with the clip ejection port in bottom of mag housing. If it is, I hope you don't have much in it.

Mobuck

bullelk

REBJr,
That is in fact an Italian Carcano. The words "torre annunzia" refer to one of the Italian Government arsenals. There were four of them, Brescia, Terni, Torina and Torre Annunziata.

They load from the top with a clip similar to an MI Garand, only it holds about five rounds. After the last round is chambered, the clip falls out thru the slot on the bottom of the magazine. More than likely it is a 6.5 Carcano cartridge.

Gino

"If All Else Fails, Read The Directions"

REBJr

OK, sounds like thats it, still lost, what round does it take? is it still the 6.5x55? I did the wax thing that I was advised of and it comes out as a bottleneck cart. about the same size as the 7.62x54r but smaller in caliber.-Ralph

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leeblackman

NO it does not use a 6.5x55, it will probably use the 6.5mm Carcano.

If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.

The sound of a 12 gauge pump clears a house fatser than Rosie O eats a Big Mac !

bullelk

REBJr,
If you want to learn more about this rifle, go to this web-site.
And it is a 6.5mm Carcano, You can get Norma ammo in that caliber.

http://attila.stevens-tech.edu/~glibera1/carcano/

Gino

"IF All Else Fails, Read The Directions"

REBJr

Thanks for all the help- It seems I'll have more in the ammo than in the rifle, but what the hey, I still really have nothing in it, and it's another piece of history. I appreciate all the help that was given, and I've come away with more knowledge because of it. thanks all-Ralph

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