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Clean Shot & Clear Shot Powders

KX500KX500 Member Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭
edited June 2002 in Ask the Experts
Anybody out there using these powders? What are the Pros & Cons? I've used the Clan shot quite a bit & love it so far - don't really see a down side to it - although I don't have a chrono.
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  • rg666rg666 Member Posts: 395 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I haven't tried it yet. I want to use it in a 45-120 cartridge but can't seem to find the time yet. What are you using it in? RG
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  • KX500KX500 Member Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Knight muzzleloaders (Wolverine & Disc). As I mentioned, I really like the Cleanshot - 100 grains and a 240 grain sabot'd round got really good penetration on a 1/4ing away 5 pt last fall. I know it is a mortal sin to not clean guns after every outing, but the Cleanshot really is pretty noncorrosive, so if I don't get a round to cleaning it for a week it's no big deal. I haven't been able to find the Goex Clearshot, but I'd like to try it too.
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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    Tried Clean Shot and I don't like it. Sure, it cleans up easy and is less corrosive but it doesn't have the same oomph as BP, doesn't smell right and doesn't make enough smoke. I find that it takes about 10% more Clean shot to equal BP velocities.

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  • AdamsQuailHunterAdamsQuailHunter Member Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I use CleanShot for reloading solid brass shotshell casing and paper casing (going to be used in costal marsh rail hunting where it is easy to loose a $3.00 solid brass shotshell casing). I had rather have CTG Pyrodex for this application than anything else, but you can't find it any more. CleanShot patterns much better than Clear Shot in any loading I have tried and I believe it has a shorter shot string but I don't have any high speed photos to back it up, but I have had birds go through my Clear Shot pattern, that would not have made it through the CleanShot pattern.

    Has anybody tried the new 777 powder yet????????

    Best Regards
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  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Member Posts: 5,378 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've been using clean shot for 45/70 plinking loads. Haven't really worked up a accuracy load with it. I like it because I work nights and often stop at the range before work. I don't clean the guns until I get home that night. While it's not corrosive to the steel parts in my gun. It does seem to be fairly corrosive to brass cartridge casings. I haven't had a chance to try clear shot or 777 yet, but plan on doing so at the first opportunity.

    Woods

    How big a boy are ya?
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  • joeaf1911a1joeaf1911a1 Member Posts: 2,962 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I use 75 grs. Cleanshot (3 drs. minus a little) with cardboard and felt wads in my old Winc. 12 ga Mod 1887 lever gun. 1 1/8 oz shot
    and crimped on a Mec in Rem. plastic hulls. Same load for the solid brass hulls, but different wads as inner diam. is different and no
    star crimp, naturally. Good results and not too bad to clean.
    Brass shells get cleaned in half and half white vinegar and water,
    then rinsed and dried.
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  • FestusHaycreekFestusHaycreek Member Posts: 14 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was at the range with a guy that was shooting clear shot in a .54 CVA. He said he would NOT go back to pyrodex or BP ever again. He said he never takes the barrel off to clean it anymore, he just swabs it out with "simple green" and runs a couple clean patches in it. I will have to say that after about 20 shots he never cleaned the barrel and the barrel was very clean, I watched him run a white patch down it and it came out very clean!! I will also have to say that I was shooting a .50 Browning with 90 grains of pyrodex and was outshooting him very easily, we were both shooting patched round balls. I don't know if the powder was making a difference so???? Does anyone have actual or printed ballistic differences with pyrodex verses clear shot?? Also do any of you .45-70 shooters use the NEF buffalo classic model cr1871, I am thinking about buying one???
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  • FestusHaycreekFestusHaycreek Member Posts: 14 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Woodsrunner, what kind of load do you use in your 45-70 black powder loads?? Case, powder load, primer, bullet??? Thanks.
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hodgdon http://www.hodgdon.com/ has just come out with a product they call Triple 7. Easy clean up and higher velocities (ca. 1400 fps). I have not tried it yet, still using up the pyrodex pellets, but friends have used, and chronographed it, and it apparently lives up to the claims. Now, as soon as they get it in a pellet...
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  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Member Posts: 5,378 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm shooting 65gr cleanshot topped with 2 wads cut from a paper milk carton, 405 gr wheel weight bullet lubed with lee tumble lube, in a PMC case. I'm using a homemade drop tube and measuring with the measure from my muzzleloader. It's shooting 6" 100yd groups. My NEF Handi rifle will shoot 3" groups with black and SPG lube, otherwise the same load. One of these days I'm going to load up some 45Lc's and try it out in my 1858 Rem conversion.

    Woods

    How big a boy are ya?
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