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Winchester Model 70 30-06 1967
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OK, my next rifle is this 1967 Winchester Model 70 30-06 in very good condition.
From what I've read, the pre-1964's were great, the post-1964's (mine) were OK but have improved over time. So I have the least desireable of the production years. Should I be looking for a newer one and would it be worth the time and trouble to trade up?
Is there anything being done to these models to improve there mechanical functionality?
Next, there is an adjustable site right over the "30-06 SPRG that I don't see on other model 70's. Was this an option?
How can I tell if the stock checkering is pressed or cut, or does that just come with the date of the rifle?
Is there a way to tell if the leather sling is original?
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From what I've read, the pre-1964's were great, the post-1964's (mine) were OK but have improved over time. So I have the least desireable of the production years. Should I be looking for a newer one and would it be worth the time and trouble to trade up?
Is there anything being done to these models to improve there mechanical functionality?
Next, there is an adjustable site right over the "30-06 SPRG that I don't see on other model 70's. Was this an option?
How can I tell if the stock checkering is pressed or cut, or does that just come with the date of the rifle?
Is there a way to tell if the leather sling is original?
Thanks
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EDIT #1, The rear sight appears to be one of those made by Williams. Although not original, it's doubtful that it would affect the value of a post 64 Model 70.
Unfortunately, your Post-63' Model 70, "is what it is". Basically, the popularity of the Remington 700, being new in 62', took some of the market share away from the Winny 70. So, the idots at Winny tried to copy the idiots at Remington, and degraded a very nice rifle.
That said, if you were going to improve on what you already have, I would look for a Model 70 Classic, as it goes back to the Pre-64' style model, with Controlled Round Feed(CRF), on a Mauser style action. Since the Winchester Plant closed at New Haven, they are now being made by the parent companie's production facility, in Columbia, SC. They are very good for fit, finish, and function. If you do purchase one of these, make sure you get the"CLASSIC", with the CRF style action, as they still make the other style, that is the push feed, if I remember correctly.
Or you may be able to go to the auction side, and get one that was made in New Haven.
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You have been given some really good advice, your post 64 is not ever going to be anything more than a shooter. So shoot it.
I have a few pre 64 model 70s, two 06s, a standard rifle and a feather weight, I have the same pair in 270. I have hunted with and shot pre 64s most of my life.
I have a post 64 model 70 in 270 that my father bought for my mother in 1971, it's the same era your 06 is, with the same manufacturing changes. That rifle shoots better than any of the pre 64 270s or 06s I own. It shouldn't, by everything I've learned collecting pre 64s for 40+ years it like comparing a Yugo to a Corvette.
The point is, the post 64 model 70 is a pretty good hunting rifle, keep it, shoot in and hunt with it.
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Photobucket is working. It was right-off-the-bat easier to understand.
I'm working on the size of my pictures but any suggestions are welcome. The pictures here are all about 125 KB. Is that the issue?
What about the rifle itself. Will I have any problems with it?
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Any firearm could have problems, but I think it will be fine and shoot well enough for what a person who is hunting would need.
There is nothing wrong with push-feed actions. Can't dispute the popularity of the Remington 700 for example. Winchester 70's can benefit from a good trigger and stock bedding.
That is a Williams rear sight and was the factory issue rear sight for that vintage rifle.
The checkering was pressed. On that particular rifle, the stock appears to have been refinished or at least had finish added improperly causing the checkering to get filled with finish. Pretty common and not a big deal.
The gun was not sold with a sling, and that sling is a later style.
Assuming the gun is mechanically sound, there is no reason to trade it off unless you are looking for a collectable Model 70. If you are looking for an every-deer-season rifle yours is perfectly OK.
I'll hold on to it and get it sighted in next month. It's going to be a target rifle for the rest of this year, then maybe out in the field next year.
Thanks for all of your input, it's valuable stuff.
It's good to know that the Williams site is original even though I'm not a collector. Just as some lighter bullets are better for their intended purpose, I believe this rifle is probably better suited for some situations, than a more powerful rifle. I like the look of it, the manufacturer, the accuracy potential and I'm so I'm holding onto it.
Thanks a bunch.