remington 600 recoil

briguy

I have a 12 year old daughter that shoots a Remington 600 243. She handles it extremely well. She shot 3 deer with it last year and just killed her 1st black bear with it last month. She is excellent on the bench with it shooting bullseyes out to 300 yards.

I was wondering how the kick is from a 308 in a Remington 600? Just wondering if she can handle it. She has shot a .270 and does great with it but the shorter rifle fits her better. A 12 gauge is a bit much for her and a 20 gauge is ok as long as she sticks with 6 shot.

perry shooter

I would not think many 12 year old would like the recoil of a Heavy bullet in a Remington. If she has killed deer and black bear then.What do you think she would want to hunt that a 243 would not do the job with good bullet placement[?] Heavy recoil will do more to start bad habits in shooting then any other one thing . I for one would not do it .

rufe-snow

quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
I would not think many 12 year old would like the recoil of a Heavy bullet in a Remington. If she has killed deer and black bear then.What do you think she would want to hunt that a 243 would not do the job with good bullet placement[?] Heavy recoil will do more to start bad habits in shooting then any other one thing . I for one would not do it .


+1, Heavy recoil and muzzle blast take the fun out of shooting. Kudos to her for what she has already done with a 243 at her young age.

You might look into the various monolithic/solid bullets, made by Barnes and other bullet makers nowadays. They would substantially increase the lethality of the 243, if you intend to take her hunting for larger game.

charliemeyer007

I think if you load for the rifle and her the 308 in a 600 would be fine. Might take a few years for her to grow in full loads.

Proper fit of rifle to shooter helps make recoil tolerable. Pads and jackets can help too. Allowing the rifle to move you is much nicer than trying to remain ridged.

tsr1965

If you really want to up her game, pass on the Remington 600 in 308, and get her a Remington Model 7 in 260 Remington. It is from the same family of cartridges, but being a 6.5mm projectile, with the properly constructed bullet, will do ANYTHING that the 308 will do, plus some. The plus some, means shoots flatter, and has recoil in the 243 range. Plus in both worlds.

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Ray B

I DISAGREE with the above posts. I got a M700 308, first year production. It had a 20" barrel and I worked over the stock so it fit the size I was at the time, about 5' 5". It worked well and it has fired thousands of rounds by all sizes of kids as part of the hunter education program. The key is: if you want less recoil for familiarization/target get the lighter (110,125 gr) or "reduced recoil" factory rounds, or handload them to reduced specs. Since she already has a 243 getting her something like a 260 or 7/08 would be duplicating a lot of performance, whereas with the 308 it opens the way to a lot larger game.

edharold

Or a 7mm 08.

the yooper

I've got several "big game" rifles in 30-06, 270, 270 Weatherby and 7mm Rem Mag that I can shoot comfortably. I had (HAD being the operative word) a 600 in 308 that I found BRUTAL to shoot with normal factory loads. I don't know if it was stock design combined with the light weight, but it really pounded me. I really like the 600 design so traded the 308 for a 6mm and it's a wonderful little rifle, which is basically what your daughter has. If she shoots the 243 well, I wouldn't move her to a 308 in THAT RIFLE until she gets older/bigger even disregarding the fact that I have no use for the 308. Just my opinion and worth every penny you paid for it.[:)]
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tsr1965

quote:Originally posted by Ray B
I DISAGREE with the above posts. I got a M700 308, first year production. It had a 20" barrel and I worked over the stock so it fit the size I was at the time, about 5' 5". It worked well and it has fired thousands of rounds by all sizes of kids as part of the hunter education program. The key is: if you want less recoil for familiarization/target get the lighter (110,125 gr) or "reduced recoil" factory rounds, or handload them to reduced specs. Since she already has a 243 getting her something like a 260 or 7/08 would be duplicating a lot of performance, whereas with the 308 it opens the way to a lot larger game.


You are totally incorrect about the 260's capability. It shoots flatter than a 270, and delivers more energy to the target beyond 400 yards than the 308, and many 30-06 loadings. In the Scandinavian peninsula, the 6.5x55 Swede(ballistic twin of the 260) is one of the favored Moose guns. Those 6.5's have high ballistic coefficients, and high sectional density, which aid in flat trajectory, and penetration, respectively.

Yes, I used to be a strictly 30 caliber and larger, for big game too, until the design of projectiles improved. With the bonded bullets, and the monolithic(Barnes TSX bullet), the smaller calibers are just as proficient as the larger ones, paying close attention to putting it where it needs to go. But then again, a 500 Whiz-Bang!, does not do any good, if it is not put where it needs to be.

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tocamoha

Rufe's got it on the 6.5 x 55.But what's the hurry ?.243 is a great caliber and she can go larger later if "she wants to".She might start thinking about boys and not care about shooting anymore

tocamoha

I meant tsr 1965.

TWalker

I own both a 6mm and a 308 in the models 660 & 600. The recoil of the 308 is significant. I wouldn't have a 12 YO shoot mine unless I handloaded the ammo with 125 or 130 grain bullets at moderate velocity. My suggestion is to stay with the 243 until she is older or as has already been suggested, try a Remington Model 7 in 260 or 7mm08 caliber. Another gun to try is the Ruger American compact in 7mm08. It has a shorter buttstock and a 18 inch barrel.