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Winchester identification PART 2

AdventureTimeAdventureTime Member Posts: 33 ✭✭
edited June 2013 in Ask the Experts
First thread was locked. Thanks for all the responses! Still looking for more info.

Thank you!
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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  • AdventureTimeAdventureTime Member Posts: 33 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bump.

    Is this gun even worth anything significant with the barrel cut as it is? I was hoping there was some cool story or reason it had been cut...
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  • CapnMidnightCapnMidnight Member Posts: 8,038 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The most common reason for barrel cutting in my neck of the woods was bulging the end of the barrel from mud blocking the bore.
    When I was a kid, an old man I knew had a model 86 Winchester rifle he had cut down to a 22 inch barrel and half magazine. When I asked him why, he said he had fallen and bent the mag tube, so he shortened it. He said the rifle length barrel was a problem getting in and out of his old A model Ford, so he shortened it. To him, that old rifle was a tool, he just made it easier to use.
    W.D.
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  • Mod1892Mod1892 Member Posts: 120 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello to all.

    I finally was able to get registered. That is what the referenced rifle in the original post is.

    The 1892 rifle in question was manufactured during 1909. This is well within the serial number range within which Winchester used the tang stamp style the owner describes. Commonly there is "MOD 1892"
    stamped just under the hammer perpendicular to the length of the tang. Though there are many rifles in this SN range for which the model designation is missing altogether.

    The description of the barrel address style and location is correct for the gun and his "2 stampings" arethe superposed W/P proof stamps. The markings on the bottom of the receiver are inspectors stamps
    applied during the manufacturing process. He does not mention the configuration, sporting rifle or saddle ring carbine nor the caliber of the gun. The majority at this time by far are octagon barrel sporting rifles in 25-20 caliber. The caliber stamp will be on the left flat or side of the barrel.

    Hope this helps
    Michael

    Model 1892 / 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
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  • AdventureTimeAdventureTime Member Posts: 33 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Michael,

    Thank you very much for the info. I've forwarded it to the owner, but have passed on the sale. That cut barrel killed it for me.

    Thanks for the time and effort!
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  • pdog72pdog72 Member Posts: 78 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Michael,
    Glad to see you on this forum now too. You will be another great resource on Winchesters and I'm sure everyone will appreciate your willingness to share your expertise.

    Gary
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  • Mod1892Mod1892 Member Posts: 120 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    AT,

    Glad to help. And yes the cut barrel is a deal killer for a collecting rifle. It is non original and just looks weird!

    Pdog72,

    Thanks for your kind words. I will gladly chime in as needed. I will also be trolling for Model 1892's and Model 61's for my surveys.

    Michael

    Model 1892 / 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
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  • Old-ColtsOld-Colts Member Posts: 22,697 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mod1892
    I will also be trolling for Model 1892's and Model 61's for my surveys.Perhaps you could persuade Bert to add a Model 92/1892 Survey Sticky similar to the one he has for Model 94/1894's.

    Welcome to the forums Michael!

    If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!

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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Old-Colts
    quote:Originally posted by Mod1892
    I will also be trolling for Model 1892's and Model 61's for my surveys.Perhaps you could persuade Bert to add a Model 92/1892 Survey Sticky similar to the one he has for Model 94/1894's.

    Welcome to the forums Michael!


    Start the post and I will Sticky it.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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  • Mod1892Mod1892 Member Posts: 120 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bert,

    Thanks for the offer. I will do that in a couple of weeks when I am away from all the distractions of family right now. It will take a bit of time to structure it all and assemble the best photos.

    Stay tuned.
    Michael

    Model 1892 / 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mod1892
    Bert,

    Thanks for the offer. I will do that in a couple of weeks when I am away from all the distractions of family right now. It will take a bit of time to structure it all and assemble the best photos.

    Stay tuned.
    Michael


    You are quite welcome, and I am happy to have you onboard the GB ATE forum[^]

    To all interested readers, Michael is as dedicated to the history and research of the Model 1892 as I am to the Model 1885 and Model 1894. Please assist him with his survey, and be prepared to learn a great deal about the Model 1892!

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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