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7mm 08 or .270?

BrockwayBrockway Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
edited March 2002 in Ask the Experts
I am a woman and have been hunting for several years with my husband. I currently have a ruger .243 and want a more accurate and powerful rifle. I am debating between a remmington .270 mountain rifle, but my husband thinks I should get a 7 mm 08 remmington mountain rifle, because it has less recoil. We mainly hunt blacktail deer, at no more than 300 yards. Or is there another gun that we have not thought about?
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  • BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
    edited November -1
    HOW DO YOU HANDLE RECOIL? Are you wanting a compact rifle?Boomer
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  • BrockwayBrockway Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I want a light rifle, but my husband thinks that the recoil of the .270 will be too much in the mountain rifle. I have used a .30 06 ruger M77 Mark II and have even shot his .300 win mag. I can handle the recoil but I enjoy shooting and go target shooting alot. I would like to have a great all around rifle, that I could hunt and target practice with.
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  • BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
    edited November -1
    Your husband is correct that the .270 is going to be a hand full in a light weight rifle. There are plenty of rifle calibers that will do what you need. The 7mm-08, .260 Rem. 7x57mm Mauser will give you greater punch with out undue recoil. The problem is finding one in a lightweight rifle, such as a mountain gun.I like the 7x57mm Mauser. I got it in a Ruger No. 1 International. It is beautiful andhas a mild recoil. It is lightweight and has the full Mannlicher stock on it. However, it is a single shot rifle, not a bolt action rifle. http://www.ruger-firearms.com/rfpages/no1rsi.html Check out the site below for the Remington Model 7 rifle. You may want to consider the .260 Rem as an alternative to the .270win. The .260 is based on the 08 family of cases so the recoil will not be as stout as the 06 family case. This may be a good compromise for you. http://www.remington.com/firearms/centerfire/M7_LS.htm However remember just about any cartridge in a light weight rifle is not going to be a great target rifle. Only the .223 will fit that bill in a lightweight rifle, but it is not the best for black tail at the distances you are talking about.Good luck, Boomer
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  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I to would recommend the .260rem, its a fairly new cartridge, fires the same bullet as the popular 6.5x55swedish mauser but in a .308 case. The cartridge has great ballistics, low reciol, and is growing more popular by the day. Actually now that I think about it, the .260rem is like a 7mm-08 but instead of 7mm bullet it fires a 6.5mm bullet.The following cartridges use a .308 case:.22-250 (the .22 cal bullet).243 (6mm bullet).260rem (6.5mm bullet)7mm-08 (7mm bullet).308 (.30cal bullet)
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  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just relized what you need, an M1 Garand Tanker Carbine. Thats exactly what you need. You can find them in .30-06 or .308 and you can have them converted to fire any of their proprietary cartridges like the .270, 25-06, ect. Or any of the .308 cartridges.
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am having trouble with the recoil issue here, look at a balistics table, the 7mm-08 and 270 are extremely close in velocity and trajectory with a weight spread of only 10 grains. The 7mm-08 is accurate due to the fact that it is based on the most accurate 30 caliber round casing as well as having a short/fat powder column. I loaned a girl here at work a 7mm-08 with a 22" barrel and she loved it. She probably goes no more than 120lbs. Recoil is close between the two, I would go for the 7mm-08 due to it's accuracy and compact action size. I have never had a deer take more than a few steps with it. federal premium 140gr nosler balistic tip. works like a charm.
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  • PiadeaPiadea Member Posts: 146 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think the real issue is how much gun you want to lug around the woods all day and still have something with plenty of punch that doesn't beat you up at the range. Hands down the choice is the Rem Mod 7 in 7-08. It's light, handy, accurate with factory ammo, and kills deer effectively. After years of carrying 81/2 lb. rifles in various calibers, I bought a 7-08 and wouldn't part with it. My two cents.
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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Try a nice light 25-06, still good for what the .243 is, should be light on the recoil, I havent shot one, ask around, but sufficient to do what you need it for, as well as able to reach out and kill whatever you shoot at. Just a thought.
    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    Last week a friend of mine got a new Remington mt. rifle in 25-06 I got a chance to shoot it the recoil is about the same as my 30-06 out of the box it got 1" gropes at 100 yards Great rifle, am starting to change my mind on those pincel barrel guns.
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  • BrockwayBrockway Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for all the great info. Except Boomer did not need to mention that my husband was right. I hear that alot :-). So has anyone besides Chuck shot a mountain rifle? I think they look nice, and like the idea of the drop magazine. Besides the remmington is there a more accurate gun manufacture, (not a weatherby)in a moderate price range? So I am thinking more along the lines of the .260 and 7 mm 08.
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    BROWNING A-BOLT in those calibers will be short just like the mountain rifle. The bolt throw might be more to your liking so I would suggest you cycle the bolts on both before making a decision. They also have detachable mags.
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  • StraightArrowStraightArrow Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    My wife is an avid Kansas whitetail hunter. She killed her first buck with a 257 Wby Mag.,next three with 270 Win, a couple more with my 280 Rem. I bought a Remington 700 BDL in 7-08 Rem for her to try. She loved it and informed me that this was the caliber she wanted to keep shooting. She now shoots a nice little Remington model 7, 7-08 in the stainless/synthetic. Ten more nice bucks have bit the dust, one shot each, longest shot out to 225 yds. She uses Nosler 140gr. Bal-tip bullet. The recoil is minimal and this gun keeps zero year after year. The accuracy is right at 1" using a Leupold 2.5x8 Vari-XIII at 100 yds. You can't go wrong with this caliber on what you intend to hunt. Just food for thought based on 16 years of experience with the caliber.
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  • BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
    edited November -1
    Oops, sorry, but sometimes we are right. You have made a good cartridge selection. You cannnot go wong with either.Boomer
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  • jec110jec110 Member Posts: 5 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Weatherby Accumark, synthetic stock, 24" barrell that weighs in under 7 pounds in 7mm-08 and love it. Topped with a Leupold 3-9 it is still very light and a pleasure to shoot.
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