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1918 9 mm rounds

joeaf1911a1joeaf1911a1 Member Posts: 2,962 ✭✭
edited June 2002 in Ask the Experts
I have a handfull of OLD 9 mm Luger loaded cartridges (no box)
headstamped Maxim USA 1918 . Has a silver looking, truncated
slug. Possibly cupro nickle. Any ideas who made them, and any
possible collecters value without box?? Thanks.
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maxim Munitions Corp (Watertown, NY) loaded roughly 1 million .45 ACP for the military in 1917 - 1918 with the "Maxim USA" headstamp. I'm going to talk to some folks more knowledgeable than I on the 9mm.
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    DWM is impressed in the bullet bases.
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  • joeaf1911a1joeaf1911a1 Member Posts: 2,962 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pulled one and has no DWM on bullet base. Actual base is not clad.
    has lead showing. Shell is boxer primed. Powder looks kinda
    similar to Bullseye (flake). Bullet weighs 124 grs. Isnt DWM
    a "Deutche Waffen and Munitions" stamp. (spelling may be incorrect
    going by memory only. And memory is fading away. Again, thanks.
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  • XracerXracer Member Posts: 1,990 ✭
    edited November -1
    Hmmmm.....strange one. The only thing I can think of is that possibly we were making them for our allies, but I can't think of whom.

    Back in WWI, I'm sure the British didn't use 9mm....nor did the French, and I don't think the Italians or Russians did either.

    OK, Capt. Kirk, time to step in and beam us down an answer to this puzzle.
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    v35 & Xracer - These are *American* made shells, not European, of that I'm certain. The big question which I am attempting to research is whether these were a military contract loading (possible).

    joe - at this point I don't know what value these have, but I'm sure there is some premium to them. Please contact me directly at tcg25@hotmail.com so I have a way to communicate with you in the event this thread becomes locked.


    Edited by - Iconoclast on 06/08/2002 12:14:00
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK, just had a reply on my inquiry to a real expert in this field. These were made by the MM Corp as noted above, military contract for Italy. Box label in source's collection:

    28 CARTUCCE
    MOD-910
    PER MITRAGLIATRICE

    Now I'm trying to get a handle on value.
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  • joeaf1911a1joeaf1911a1 Member Posts: 2,962 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Iconoclast: Many thanks for the info . Truely appreciate it. Joe
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry, I glossed over the headstamp marking and only saw cupro nickle, truncated cone bullet. The stuff I have is just that and marked DWM on the bullet bases. Maxim must have copied the german design exactly during the war.
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK, found these typically go for $1-$2 each at retail: "not scarce, but not common." As usual, condition makes a big difference in value. Truncated cone loading was used to create a visual difference between these and 9mm Glisenti rounds.

    Hope this helps.
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  • joeaf1911a1joeaf1911a1 Member Posts: 2,962 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Again, many thanks for you research. I really appreciate it.
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