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camp carbine and +P+ ammo

slugoslugo Member Posts: 45 ✭✭
edited June 2002 in Ask the Experts
I am seeing some good deals on +P+ 9mm ammo and am interested in shooting it in my camp carbine.

I have been told that there would be no problem.

That the little carbines are so overbuilt that a 25% increase in pressure, which the ammo warns of, is not a problem.

Any advice???? Thanks S
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  • Gordian BladeGordian Blade Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have one of those also. It's a fun gun. However, since Marlin doesn't make them anymore, some parts aren't available. This will only get worse over time. If you want to keep it in good shape, I wouldn't shoot +P+ ammo if I were you. From the Owner's Manual, "WARNING: Do not use ammunition designated '9mm +P+' in this rifle. The pressure generated by these cartridges may cause damage to the gun or personal injury."

    And for what it's worth, since the Camp Carbine uses S&W magazines, this is from the S&W manual:

    'Plus-P-Plus (+P+)' marking on the ammunition merely designates that it exceeds established industry standards, but the designation does not represent defined pressure limits and therefore such ammunition may vary significantly as to the pressures generated.

    'Plus-P-Plus (+P+)' ammunition is not recommended for use in Smith & Wesson firearms.
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  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree I dont think Marlin recommends shooting plus P loads in that weapon. I would carry the weapon when needed with plus Ps. But as for plinking I would not recommend using them. PLus you can shoot alot cheaper with regular loads. Hope this helps!!

    Rugster
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  • Laredo LeftyLaredo Lefty Member Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was shooting my Marlin Camp Carb with some european 9mm marked PPU 60. It blew up in my face & I got hurt. This ammo was not marked +p or +p+ but may have been subgun ammo which is usually a bit hotter than pistol ammo. The gun got all busted up, but Marlin was gracious enough to give me a brand new gun when I mailed them the broken one.
    Heed the warnings, this gun is not as strong as it looks.
    Happy shootin -- Joe--
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  • oneshyoneshy Member Posts: 417 ✭
    edited November -1
    The reason the ammo is a good deal is because it makes firearms old and worn out before their time. IMHO
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  • thunderboltthunderbolt Member Posts: 6,041 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    With a straight blowback design and a too hot cartridge, you can run into problems with the cartridge case backing out of the chamber before the bullet exits the barrel. See Gun Digest "Book Of The .45"
    by Dean Grennell and check out the article ".45 ACP Carbines". Different cartridge, but same problem.
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