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Waiting for reply from Rossi in Brazil
Yanqui
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I emailed Rossi asking for testing information on the Rossi 92 Puma in 454 Casull. Here is the website address http://www.rossi.com.br/
I hope for a reply. I do not speak or read Portugese.
Yanqui
I hope for a reply. I do not speak or read Portugese.
Yanqui
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Good Luck.
Rugster
Have you tried something like the translator services at (perhaps) http://babelfish.altavista.com for instance? They do Portugese to English, among others. Sometimes the results are laugable, and there are others, but atleast they can give you a better idea of what's been posted.
I tried looking for a translator service but I coudn't locate one that would work for me. I'll give this one a try.
I am still waiting for a reply. I am patient. It took a month before I received a reply from Aitor. Heck, Winchester, Colt and Uberti took a couple of weeks to reply also. So, I am confident that Rossi will respond.
Yanqui
Edited by - Yanqui on 06/15/2002 09:10:47
Edited by - Yanqui on 06/15/2002 11:21:31
You're right. It was hilarious.
Yanqui
You made it seem as if those of us who wanted to know the info. on the 454 from Rossi were sort of dumb for not contacting Rossi. It also seemed to me that you were doing a lot of discrediting of people who were advising against buying the gun, citing reasons of concern over the strength of the gun. It would now seem to me that the people who were telling you that it seemed almost impossible to get any info on the gun were not so dumb after all. It seems even clearer to me now that if it takes this much work to just get info. on one gun made by Rossi, that the people advising against buying the gun for other reasons were missing the best reason of all not to buy one of the Rossi guns, the 454 in particular. That reason being, if it takes this much work to find out info. on a gun, how much work is it going to take to get one repaired, if what the (unqualafied, and anonymous experts) are saying is true about the gun's strength? I for one will do as I had stated before, I will wait and let other more adventurous gun enthusiasts risk their money on a gun that everyone that isnt an expert says is not a good idea to be buying. Sounds as if the American made guns and the companys that make them know a little more about customer service than Rossi does also. It could be that the gun will turn out to be a great gun, too bad it doesnt have the customer service and advertising to back it up.
SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
The reason I am trying to get information from Rossi is to silence the skeptics. But then there are some experts that will never be convinced even with the proof in front of them.
Rossi is not the first foreign company I have had trouble getting information from. I could not get any information from H&K. None of the distributors or imports could give me the information. I had to have an American operator call a Germany operator. Luckily the German operator happens to drive past the company on the way to work. She got me in touch with H&K. But I do not speak German and the people I got in touch with did not speak English. I had to find someone here that could speak German. Sound familiar?
Over the years I have heard the same old story from experts. That Italian gun is junk. That plastic gun will fall apart. The AK is not accurate. The AR15 is a piece of junk. The Bren Ten is the best gun in the world. Taurus are inferior. Marlins are stronger. Rugers are stronger. The Colt Delta Elite will come apart. Hell, even Smith & Wesson and Ruger had a conflict going on. Ruger still will not acknowledge the S&W caliber in their catalog or on their weapons. Smith & Wesson has more class. And besides S & W is now owned by an Arizona company.
The list goes on. But that Italian gun was an Uberti. That plastic gun was a Glock. The AK can hit a man at 300 meters. The AR15 is one of the best rifles in the world. The Bren Ten is not around. My Colt Delta Elite did not come apart.
I do not criticize a product just because my favorite company or because an American company did not come out with it first. I do not pass on second hand information from an unknown expert or from my buddy who has an arsenal in his home so he is must be an expert. Over the years I have been turned away from purchasing certain firearms because I listened to these experts. And later I find out they were wrong. I have passed on very good deals.
As for their customer service. Taurus/Rossi has a lifetime warranty on their product. The warranty goes with the product.
I do not own a Taurus/Rossi handgun. But if they were to come out with an SAA. Now that would be something. They could call it El Bandido Yanqui. That is Spanish.
SGT. Frederick L. Serna, USMC (1976-1980)
Yanqui
Taurus/Rossi have a lifetime warranty. "Most" American gunmakers have a "limited warranty". Read your warranty card.
I've had Winchester, United States Repeating Arms, Colt, H&K, Browning(FN-FAL),Galil, Bushmaster, Eagle Arms(ArmaLite), Universal, Smith & Wesson, Ruger and Marlin products. Not one is better than the other. The H&K, FN-FAL, Galil, Bushmaster, Smith&Wesson, Ruger(Blackhawks) and Eagle Arms are long gone.
Sometimes the responce from the companies service department were quick and effecient and sometimes you had to bug the hell out of them to get them to do something. Just cruise the gun forums and see the differences from day to day.
Yanqui
to see if they can help me.Sorry we can't help you.We don't cover Interarms imported firearms,Hey why don't you buy a new Taurus/Rossi from us they have a lifetime guarantee.I will never buy any imported firearm again.Cheat me once,shame on you.Cheat me twice,shame on me.Thanks,
Dr.Evil
A note on the Uberti, I have a nice muzzle loader made by them. Too bad it doesnt have a barrel. To make a long story short, one barrel was screwed up, not their fault, I ordered another from them, took 11 months to get it, the (gunsmith) screwed this one up, I ordered another one, 3 years have passed and I still havent got another from them, I wont buy (guns) from companys I cant drive to and complain at their front door.
Get a hold of Legacy Sports International and double check on the warranty period of the Rossi line up. They are the soul importer of the gun you want, if it doesnt come from their mouths it doesnt mean anything. I believe it only has a one year warranty. Rossi is not Taurus, not made in the same factory, and not held to the same quality control, this I know for a fact, check into it, before buying.
www.legacysports.com
SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
I will have to agree that the quality of workmanship is not there with Rossi. But if you want more quality control then you will have to pay for it. Navy Arms http://www.navyarms.com/index.html and Taylor & Company http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/ import Rossi. They demand higher quality from Rossi. But check out there prices. What you are paying for is the fit and finish.
The company that took over the warranty service from Interarms is M&M Gunsmithing. clellan@erols.com (Mike & Ginger Mc Clellan)
M&M Gunsmithing
204 S. Union Street
Alexandria, VA 22314
703-739-2150
703-739-9890 fax
If you read through the Rossi/Braztech website http://www.rossiusa.com/warranty.html you will find that information. I having been doing business with the warranty company even before M&M they took over the warranty service.
If you read through the posts on the various gun forums you will find that every gun manufacture has bad customer service as well as great service. It is the luck of the draw. It should not be like that. Luckily I do not have that problem. Sometimes I do not get the answer I like. But I have always been directed to someone that can help.
Winchester(USRA) will not/cannot reblue my Winchester 94 Wrangler in 32 Winchester Special. They do not do that process anymore. The receiver is cast. That is a long story. But I still do business with them. They still sell parts and answer any questions I have.
Marlin will not send me parts as well as Ruger. I have to go to Numrich for parts. I no longer do business with them. It is not I do not want to. They make it impossible.
Colt has great costumer service. They just are to damn expensive. They now sell parts too. Again to damn expensive. But I have acquired some free spare parts and stuff from them.
Thanks for your insight. But I will purchase a Rossi 92 Puma in 454 Casull. I will shorten the barrel to 16". I will also install a large loop lever. I will also replace the crappy hardwood stock with walnut.
But I replace all my lever actions with Saddle Ring Carbine walnut stocks from http://www.precisiongunstocks.com/ including my Post 64 Winchesters and Marlin(Sears). The Cowboy Retrofit.
Yanqui
I bet you can get this for the starting price, I havent seen any at auction with no reserve this cheap, and I havent seen anyone bid any this high yet, havent seen any sell actually. This is cheaper than you can buy them with the buy now feature of any auctions I've seen and cheaper than you can buy them direct from LSI also, I'd go for it if you are sure you want one.
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=4292622
SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
I saw the .454 rifle at the SHOT Show and it looked just like a .45 Colt M92-clone rifle to me, except for the recoil pad.
I am surprised that there is so much worry about this chambering. After all, this is a REVOLVER cartridge. It will be fine in a rifle. Sure, the chamber pressure is higher than other chamberings, but so what? The chamber area on the M92 clone is a lot thicker than the cylinder walls on any of the revolvers in which the .454 is offered.
Those students of P. O. Ackley will know that he did a lot of conversions on the Browning-designed lever actions, such as the M86, M92 and M94. To prove that bolt thrust was not the problem many believed it to be, he removed the locking lugs entirely and fired the hottest loads without failure. The reason that works is that, when the cartridge is fired, the internal pressure expands the case very tightly against the chamber walls and the case cannot move rearward. The same principal is used in blowback actions to a degree. Once the pressure subsides, the case contracts and the remaining pressure pushes the case rearward to be ejected.