Drilling

jcbrown23602

Have purchased a Drilling and have some questions.
Double shotgun marked 16 Ga., but bottom of rifle barrel stamped: 7.7 x 57 mm.
I am not familiar with this mark and any help would be appreciated.
Thank You.

jcbrown23602

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Hi I have a drilling 2*16gauge and a 8,7 mm rifle under the only marking is PR.Fluss-stahl can anyone tell me more about
this gun. this gun is made about 1920

nils

jcbrown23602

I have a hammer drilling 16x16 and an rifle that is marked on the chamber 360+57D below is R.W.S. and to the side ia a stamp that looks like a pair of fishing rods. There is no makers name anywhere on the gun . A chamber cast seems to indicate the cal. at 9x57r is this possible?

Idler

jcbrown23602

I have a double barrel 12 with a 32-40 under. it has no trade name but has 1800 all over it. I saw one that looked just like it made by Three Barrel Gun Co. Can anyone give me any info on this gun.
Thank you
Keith Davis

jcbrown23602

[img][/img]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q14/kwdweld/2004_0115drilling0012.jpg Finally figured it out, thanks for your help!!!!!
Can anyone tell me anything about this gun, like i said i saw one that looed like it made by Three Barrel Gun Co fromm W. Va.but can't find anything about them. Thanks again for all your help

jcbrown23602

I recently acquired an antique hammered drilling. The SXS shotgun barrels are 2.5" 16 ga. over a rifle barrel of 9.5X47R. It has a maker's name and location of "E. Bamann, Landshut." I would appreciate any information anyone may have about this maker. I have spoken with someone who has seen another drilling with this name on it, but he had no other info. Thanks.

jcbrown23602

Hey folks! Hope everyone is well.

So my dad brings this over to me because he knows I like guns and wants my advice. Well...its not really what I meddle with but I told him I'd ask you fine folks and try to come up with something. A friend of his has offered to sell this to him for $2k as an investment and because the friend needs money but I don't know totally what it is much less what it's worth and don't want to see him get hosed.

I know it's a German Drilling. I don't know if that E. Walther is THE WALTHER (as in ppk etc...) or if it's a coincidence and was just some random gun maker. The trigger guard seems to be made of some sort of horn or something. It looks black and shiny to the eye, so I took a picture with flash to show some of the detail past the external. Is that original? It had some shells still in the stock that say 303 British so I assume thats the caliber of the rifle. The undercarriage of the shotgun barrels has an encircled 16...I'm assuming that means 16 gauge. I've done a little reading to try and educate myself a little but I'd still feel better hearing from someone more knowledgeable than I. It says "Heidersbach, B. / Suhl" on one barrel and "E. Walther Gewehrfabrik" on the other. I know Suhl is a place but I don't know the other two names. Thanks so much for any help anyone can give.

jcbrown23602

I recently purchased a collection that included 2 drillings. Seller thought they were both Colt Sauers. Upon closer inspection one is a 16 ga sxs over a 8x57. Engraving on vent reads Walter Uhlig Halle-s. Any help on telling me what I have and what it is worth. It is in exceptional condition.

fordsix

german guild gun not worth 2k e walther is not of walther fame that is carl walther

rufe-snow

According to my reference E. Walther was the gunsmith who made the Drilling. Heidersbach was a village/town?, near the larger city of Suhl that he was located in.

Not very likely that the rifle barrel is chambered for the 303 British. The marking in your second photo would likely give us the metric dimensions of the original rifle cartridge. Since the correct rimmed metric cartridges weren't available after the war, when our GI's brought them back as souvenirs. The closest fitting rimmed cartridge was utilized, even if they had to crudely ream the chamber to get it to fit.

In your photos there appear to be mounts for a scope on top of the barrels. If it's missing it would also negatively affect the value.

All considered, $2000 is way out of line, IMHO. Making that kind of a investment would see you stuck with this drilling for many many years, before you could even get your money out of it.

EDIT #1, Another factor I forgot to mention is the forend. When the German civilians were forced to turn in all their firearms after the war. Many removed the forends and scopes to keep the Ami's from making use of them. In the past I have run across a number of Drillings with replacement forends. The photos of the one in question doesn't show the forend. If it is a U.S. made post war replacement, the value the drilling will be additionally diminished.

jaegermister

Most likely you have a 8x57 rimmed, . 318 dia, with cases formed from 303 brass.
Also most likely a 2 1/2 chamber 16 ga.. As advised have both measured .
You can obtain brass and bullets from buffalo arms, reloading dies, and shot shells from ballistic products., or load your own low pressure 2 1/2 . $2000. Is a fair price, find the scope and you can add 1500. To that. Check out the gun with a smith before purchase.

perry shooter

Your drilling has some of the better grade features for the then German market. Horn trigger guard and Cartridge trap./ "area to put extra shells". Engraving is not of The very highest grade but all in all a Plus. Hunting in Germany is entirely different then in the USA, so these guns are more to collect then to actually use. However today the numbers of collectors of this type weapon has gotten much smaller because the people that like them are for the most part 75 + and passing away.I currently hunt with a Valmet model 412 Rifle Shotgun combination gun and have hunted with drillings but I like the modern Valmet best.