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Please help Identify Double Gun
skipjackone
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My buddy's Grandfather left him this double gun. Both barrels are rimfire. Right side has rifling, left is smoothbore. Markings on barrel: ).C5grN.G.P.M\71 and 19r.B1. Right side may be a .22 short, (bullet fits anyway). Left side is smaller than .410. Any idea what this is??
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Anyone know who made this?
Nitrozellulose Gewehr Pulver (Nitrocellulose rifle powder.
Offical black powder used by the German Army.
German Double Gun? probably a guild gun, hand crafted.
The other smooth bore barrel may be 9mm rimfire shotshell. The bore
diameter would be .309, the chamber .314 and the rim .402
If it's rimfire 38 short/long, the bore would be .376 and if it's
rimfire 41 short/long than the bore would be .405
The format of the proof marks shows early production. As the German proof laws were amended in 1912. To do away with the requirement for the marking of the specific proof loads.
Many German sporting guns such as this one were brought back as souvenirs, by our GI's after W W II.
Can't tell much from the photos but if it's factory original and in Very Good condition? It might be viable on the German collectors market. Their looking to get their stuff back. If you were to put it on our auction, might see some action from dealers who sell over there.
EDIT #1, You would have better luck searching for "Garden Gun" or something similar. The early German proof markings not likely to be specific enough. This type of gun was made to sell as a inexpensive, utility gun. Other then the required German proof marks, not likely it had either manufacturers or retailers markings.
EDIT #2, The proof marks you have given us are German. If it was made in Belgium. The proof marks would be entirely different.
I'll try searching the web with NGPm/71 Neues
Gewerhr-pulver Model 71.
The Liege United Arms Co. of Belgium.
Possibly a poachers gun?
Cost 38 marks or so.
Yours is in better condition than most. Cheap guns, commonly neglected.
Greatly Appreciate the information.