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muzzel brake for a mosin nagant 7.62x54R
arkbacks
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I have two question: Does a muzzel brake cut down on the barrel flash when firing? Will a muzzel brake for a ruger 10/22 work for a mosin nagant 7.62x54 if the outside barrel diameters are the same?
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For something like a Mosin I'd look at having the barrel threaded if it is the right diameter and using a threaded on attachment. A slip on 10/22 brake may work, but I doubt it would stay on long, especially if the center hole isn't big enough
No. One it's to small. Have you thought about the exit hole in the muzzle brake for a 10/22? Think a .311 bullet will pass through it?
Muzzle brakes reduce recoil, but increase noise. A brake will reduce the muzzle flash, but not by much. The clamp on brakes for the Mosin Nagant rifle usually end up blowing off the end of the barrel, trashing the brake, and damaging the rifle. If you're going to use one, you need the barrel threaded for one, or at the very least, use one that is pinned on.
Going to the expense of having a competent gunsmith thread the end of the barrel, correctly. So that the threads are concentric with the bore. Is pretty much a waste of money, IMHO.
No matter what type of brake or flashider you mount on the Mousin? It's going to run you a lot of money. For no great improvement in the reduction of muzzle blast or flash.
There is no getting away from the fact, either of the above carbines, have barrels of 20" or less. Go with a long barreled 91/30, if you want less blast or flash shooting factory 7.62 X 54 ammo.
91/30:
http://www.kingarmory.com/ka-1230_brake_suppressor_mosin_m91.html
M44:
http://www.kingarmory.com/ka-1230_brake_suppressor_mosin_m44.html
The brake does tame it down some. It also makes the shot so loud people on either side of you will get up & move to another station.
+1.
A brake will reduce the flash a bit, and the recoil a lot, but it also makes the gun MUCH louder. If the goal is to reduce flash, you'll want a dedicated flash suppressor ("hider"), rather than a brake. The better ones will cut out almost ALL the flash.
The good news is that Mosins take a .312 bullet and most if not all standard .308 flash hiders/muzzle brakes will work perfectly fine on a Mosin. So if you're willing to have your barrel properly threaded to fit these, that gives you a pretty wide variety to choose from (eg, see here for some examples of what's out there: http://308ar.com/brakes.htm ), and some of them aren't too expensive either.
Bad news is that threading the barrel for a brake isn't cheap. . .not sure you're going to find a good shop that will do it for under $100, and some charge quite a bit more. That means just threading the barrel may well cost more than the entire rifle, let alone adding the cost of the actual hider/brake!
Edit: No, you cannot safely use a 10/22 Muzzle brake designed for a .22 rimfire rifle on a .312 caliber centerfire rifle like a Mosin Nagant.
At *best* your first shot will blow a hole through the 22 rimfire brake, ruining it, and potentially sending high velocity bullet shrapnel all over. At worst, "other things" could be ruined too (like your gun, your day, your health, etc).
Yes, you *might* be able to get away using a .22 caliber brake if you drilled out the center concentrically to accomodate a .312 caliber bullet, but IMO that's poor practice and a bad idea. The 10-22 brake simply wasn't designed for the increased recoil and muzzle blast of a large centerfire rifle, and it probably won't hold up. If (ie when) it fails, again you have the potential for a bad mess when the centerfire rifle strikes the brake off center, etc.
If you want to run a brake or flash hider on your Mosin then get one designed for a 30 cal centerfire rifle.
The flash should be reduced if you choose to add a flash hider to the gun....but the Ruger slip on one you asked about will not work as the others have posted.
I'd rather see you spend your money setting up to reload the cartridge, as a faster powder and better bullet selection will mean less recoil, better accuracy, less flash, and more fun. [:)]